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Subject: [Leica] Speaking of Bruce Gilden and street photography
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Wed Feb 25 14:58:49 2009
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On Feb 25, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:

> Richard,
>
> I lived close to NYC for 5 years and I am quite familiar with it.  
> Yes, it is a big city, but it is not materially different from other  
> big cities in the Western world. Just because it is big and a lot of  
> people are weird does not give one a license to be an asshole.


Seems that his photography in Haiti got him into Magnum, I will look  
at it...

Maybe being in Magnum has made him "too big for his britches"...

aside from his "flamboyant" behavior, I don't find his actual street  
photographs very compelling...or revealing of anything.

I think if you jumped in front of people with a flash camera on the  
streets of New York, it would be surprising if you didn't get any  
interesting photos...

I'm not sure that makes one a great or even a good photographer,



Steve


>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
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>
>
> On Feb 25, 2009, at 8:56 PM, Richard Man wrote:
>
>> You know, I was thinking about all these "punch him in the face"  
>> kind of
>> remark on Gilden's behaviors, and Mark's earlier remark about the  
>> "loud" M8
>> also applies in this case. This is New York. Sure, if someone  
>> flashes me in
>> the face, I'd be annoyed too, but this is NY. There are far more  
>> things to
>> be annoyed about, and many of them are far more important than some  
>> nutcase
>> flashes you and then moves on. He's not like a leech and follow you  
>> all days
>> or something. You can start a shouting match, but a good New Yorker  
>> will
>> stand firm and return in kind. Abusive behavior? Yes, but this is  
>> New York
>> and he hasn't broken any law on record. I don't like much of the  
>> resulting
>> photographs and I don't condone his behaviors, but... context is  
>> important,
>> and the context here is that, "it can only happen in New York."
>>
>> -- 
>> // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com
>> // b: http://rfman.wordpress.com
>>
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