Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/03/04

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Subject: [Leica] New to Leica
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey at mchsi.com)
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:25:01 +0000
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I shoot digital and film, both M & R cameras. ?And vicious critiques? ?You 
must be kidding, it is very constructive.


Gene? -------------- Original message from Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at 
gmail.com>: --------------


> Um, I mainly post pictures, and rarely talk gear. That said,  I shoot
> with M8, MDa, and Leica CL
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Philip Forrest
>  wrote:
> > So to read that correctly, those of us who occasionally want to discuss
> > merits of digital capture maybe for the purposes of getting paid can
> > have our discussion but its only of interest to us, and we can't
> > be "gearheads." We can discuss photography but it's better if made with
> > film equipment. "Gearhead" talk is reserved for film cameras
> > exclusively. My favorite lens happens to be a 105mm Nikkor in the
> > "Barnack" mount. Good grief.
> > Phil Forrest
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:54:04 -0500
> > Marc James Small  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> First, the main voices on the List are those
> >> speaking to digital and to their Epson RD-1 and
> >> Leica M-8 experiences and problems and
> >> triumphs. ?Do not be worried by this. ?These are
> >> people with a solid interest and their comments
> >> are certainly of interest to those with an
> >> interest in digital. ?And a lot of the folks here
> >> want to discuss photographs: ?they will demand
> >> that you scan all of your pictures and post them
> >> and then discuss them in excruciating
> >> detail. ?Some like that. ?I do not. ?If you wish,
> >> scan and post your pictures. ?If you do not wish
> >> to do so, then, do not do so. ?Stay with us a
> >> while to see how the dying eat the dead on this
> >> posting of picture routine: ?the criticism tends
> >> to be vicious and hard-hearted.
> >>
> >> There are a number of us on this List who do like
> >> and use film Leica camearas. ?I also own and use
> >> a bunch of Soviet cameras and lenses and even
> >> some post-Soviet gear. ?There are others with a
> >> similar bent. ?I own only Post-War Leitz gear
> >> (though I own Prewar Zeiss Ikon and Franke &
> >> Heidecke and Voigtl?nder cameras), a IIIc, a IIIf
> >> RDST, and a IIIg, and an M3 DS and a Wetzlar
> >> M6. ?I use them all and find them all wonderful
> >> picture-takers. ?The IIIc is my favorite LTM
> >> (Leica thread-mount) camera -- I hate the term
> >> "Barnack camera", as that is a national invention
> >> of the Japanese and is not a decent title for the breed.
> >>
> >> I should add that I have owned and used a lot of
> >> prewar Leitz gear over the years and also some Prewar FED cameras and
> >> lenses.
> >>
> >> As you note, the silky smoothness of a Leica is
> >> one of its most alluring elements.
> >>
> >> Several comments:
> >>
> >> -- the "Russian revolving turret viewfinder" is a
> >> Postwar KMZ clone of the Carl Zeiss Jena 436
> >> VF. ?It is very usable and is arguably the best
> >> of the breed, though some argue for the Astro and Tewe versions.
> >>
> >> -- ?there never has been a 4/90 Leitz
> >> Elmar. ?That lens was a 4/9cm Leitz Elmar. ?This
> >> is one of my favorite lenses. ?I have late
> >> edition on my Bellows II as a micro lens, and a
> >> collapsible one for my M's. ?It is a wonderful lens.
> >>
> >> -- ?the Jupiters are all great lenses but beware
> >> of the distinctions in SPS (Soviet/Post-Soviet)
> >> quality control. ?The 2/85 Jupiter is a clone of
> >> the Prewar and Wartime 2/8.5cm Carl Zeiss Jena
> >> Sonnar and a good example is every bit as good as its original.
> >>
> >> Welcome aboard! ?I am a gearhead and love the
> >> equipment and the process. ?Find your own place
> >> and stay with us. ?Your presence makes us all that much richer.
> >>
> >> Marc
> >>
> >>
> >> msmall at aya.yale.edu
> >> Cha robh b?s fir gun ghr?s fir!
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Sonny
> http://www.sonc.com
> http://sonc.stumbleupon.com/
> Natchitoches, Louisiana
> USA
> 
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In reply to: Message from jan at gviolins.com (Jan van Rooyen) ([Leica] New to Leica)
Message from marcsmall at comcast.net (Marc James Small) ([Leica] New to Leica)
Message from photo.forrest at earthlink.net (Philip Forrest) ([Leica] New to Leica)
Message from sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] New to Leica)