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Subject: [Leica] Another 75mm-Summilux-on-M8 example
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:37:41 -0700
References: <C5F1B30D.4BE5C%mark@rabinergroup.com>

On Mar 26, 2009, at 7:32 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:

> Because if I didn't  I would invest in a different company.
> Optics is a science which progresses.
> People and companies learn with every lens they make.
> The optics of today is better than the optics of previous decades.
> Nikon, Canon, Zeiss all companies glass out performs the daylights  
> out of
> its glass from the previous decades.
> I'm a photographer
> I'm not looking for a nostalgic fingerprint.
> I'm looking for resolution and contrast.

sure... sounds good,

except when every economic pressure says

"make less for more"





Steve


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> Mark William Rabiner
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>> From: Steve Barbour <kididdoc at cox.net>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:11:51 -0700
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another 75mm-Summilux-on-M8 example
>>
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>
>>> I was for some reason not absorbing the fact that this was the old
>>> 75. The
>>> Summilux. But thinking it was the new 75, the Summicron.
>>> Sorry.
>>> I'm normally assuming the latest from Leica is going to be the best.
>>
>>
>>  errrr...
>>
>>
>> why ?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Jeff Moore <jbm at jbm.org>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:40:10 -0400
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another 75mm-Summilux-on-M8 example
>>>>
>>>> 2009-03-24-23:49:49 Mark Rabiner:
>>>>> Is it the sharpest lens in the history of photography?
>>>>> I think so.
>>>>
>>>> Except of course it isn't. Apples to apples (if maybe red apples to
>>>> green apples), with fast shutter speeds and low ISOs to show it
>>>> off, the
>>>> amazing 75mm Apo-ASPH Summicron at f/2 beats it obviously in
>>>> contrast,
>>>> fine detail, corner goodness -- whether the Summilux is at f/1.4,  
>>>> f/
>>>> 2,
>>>> f/2.8... or maybe elsewhere. And the Summicron is shorter and
>>>> lighter:
>>>> all-around handier.  I cannnot tell a lie: I own the 75/2, and I
>>>> use it
>>>> whenever I can, like when I expect for the light to be reasonably
>>>> bright.
>>>>
>>>> But the Summicron doesn't go to 11.  I mean f/1.4.  So using it,  
>>>> I'd
>>>> have had to try to hand-hold twice as slow a shutter speed.  Might
>>>> not
>>>> have worked.  There are also some touchy-feely differences in the  
>>>> way
>>>> the lenses render stuff.  But basically...  f/1.4 is darned handy
>>>> when
>>>> there isn't enough light.  Because the next ISO up is really  
>>>> raggedy
>>>> looking, and the next shutter speed down (1/45) would've been  
>>>> pretty
>>>> wobbly for a 75.  Even 1/90 can be hit-or-miss.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking at eye lashes;
>>>>> Individual ones, you can count them.
>>>>> And the split ends at the ends of them
>>>>>
>>>>> Indoors wide open hand held.
>>>>
>>>> I'm glad you see my point, Mark.  I know you're a big fan of  
>>>> compact,
>>>> light, slow, super-duper-sharp lenses, which make sense for someone
>>>> like
>>>> you who apparently goes outside a lot.  For much of the day,
>>>> there's a
>>>> really bright light turned on out there; f/4 is practical.  So you
>>>> often
>>>> make fun of the large, heavy Summiluxen they've been introducing.
>>>> But I
>>>> seem to find myself making about 80% of my pictures in rooms at
>>>> night,
>>>> and an excellent fast lens makes me really happy.
>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbm0/3358536031/sizes/o/
>>>>
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