Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/04/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Apr 8, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Gary Dalton wrote: > > This ball may have started rolling in earnest during Reagan's terms > as governor of California, 1966-74. > > Interestingly, conservative notions about cutting government > spending combined with emerging liberal notions about human rights, > providing momentum to reducing the number of people in "society's > warehouses." yup, it all sounded great at the time... Steve > > > > >> From: kididdoc at cox.net >> To: lug at leica-users.org >> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:36:49 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Mentally ill and homeless >> >> >> On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:29 AM, Lawrence Zeitlin wrote: >> >>> >>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 3:52 AM, Gene wrote: >>> >>>> I'm not sure why you consider the US opinion of the homeless as >>>> being ignorant. ?It is certainly the last thing I think of and the >>>> same goes for most people I know. ? I also do not see it as a >>>> mental health issue, but more of a economic issue. >>> >>> I'd like to support Chris on this matter, as least as regards many >>> of New York's homeless. Fifty years ago most of New York's obviously >>> mentally ill were institutionalized for treatment at considerable >>> expense to the state. With the concurrent advent of psychologically >>> theraputic drugs (tranqulizers, anti depressants, anti psychotics) >>> and New York City's financial crisis (You remember the headlines. >>> "President Ford to NY 'Drop Dead' ") the city closed most of the >>> institutions, opting to treat the ambulatory mentally ill on an >>> outpatient basis. It was assumed that visits to neighborhood clinics >>> plus drug therapy would suffice. But the the patients were mentally >>> ill. They often forgot to visit the clinics and take their >>> medications. Within a year or two most were on the streets, unable >>> to find work, living on doorsteps, sleeping over warm air subway >>> grates. Admittedly there are many people homeless because of >>> economic conditions but a substantial number of the homeless in New >>> York are there because of decisions made in the mental health system >>> a generation ago. >> >> absolutely true, the term that was used optimistically back then for >> de-institutionalizing all of these unfortunate people ... >> >> >> was mainstreaming, >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> >> >>> Safety nets and homeless shelters have been put in place but still >>> many people chose to live out their life on the streets. >> >>> Larry Z >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _________________________________________________________________ > Rediscover Hotmail?: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. > http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates1_042009 > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information