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Subject: [Leica] IMGS: Children of the World
From: imagist3 at mac.com (George Lottermoser)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:28:34 -0500
References: <200904151541.BOV31064@rg5.comporium.net> <DE04FEFF-775A-4BE9-B814-785290599114@mac.com> <200904151650.BOV37228@rg5.comporium.net> <49E69805.5010704@bouncing.org> <200904160404.BOV99280@rg5.comporium.net> <49E708D3.8090409@bouncing.org>

Points well made
and worth serious consideration.

Yet, again - I don't see Tina's photographs, as presented,
showing any mission or charity work.
They predominantly show cheerful kids in various dress and environments.

Regards,
George Lottermoser
george at imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com/blog
http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist

On Apr 16, 2009, at 5:30 AM, Philip Clarke wrote:

>
>
> Tina Manley wrote:
>> At 10:29 PM 4/15/2009, you wrote:
>>
>>> In the interests of balance, I expect to see poor USA street kids or
>>> some in a police cell or juvenile detention facility. Maybe you  
>>> could
>>> tie in the global recession/ credit crunch theme in and have some
>>> American children in vests, after their parents lost their homes and
>>> their shirts. Mexican children being escorted back over the border.
>>> Venezuela and Cuba also appear to be missing as well as the UK.  
>>> I'd lend
>>> you my children but their mother worked her way out of the Calcutta
>>> slums without charity and their disabled father gets no benefits or
>>> social support, so they're probably not suitable candidates.
>>
>> What in the world does all of that mean?  I photographed most of  
>> these
>> children while working on mission projects in developing countries.
>> I've also worked on mission projects here in the USA and have photos
>> of those, too, which I will include.  For these particular talks, I'm
>> telling school children about how children all over the world have
>> more in common than outward appearances would lead you to believe.  I
>> tell about the families I've stayed with and the people I've met  
>> in 53
>> countries.  I really don't understand what you're objecting to.
>>
>> Tina
>>
> The perpetuation of the myth that only the USA (or indeed any  
> "first or
> second" world country) should bring it's charity to the rest of the
> world. The USA should sort out it's own problems first, so for  
> balance I
> expect to see identical photos taken in the West so that the children
> you're showing the pictures too, identify with the homeless people  
> down
> the road as well as in a different country. India has a space program,
> China too (plus the greatest manufacturing ability in the world and
> they're commies), Taiwan has the greatest ability to manufacturer  
> CNC'd
> and Kevlar based items, so instead of seeing a countries strengths the
> pictures highlight the unfortunate,. So if the unfortunate is to be
> relished in for the amusement of children, then the unfortunate  
> side of
> the USA should be given exactly the same position.
>
> The only reason that these pictures are considered "special" is  
> because
> they aren't taken at home so they don't encourage an ability to  
> identify
> on an equal footing, they put down other nation's triumphs, and  
> what is
> worse is that there going to be shown to the next generation.
>
>
>
>
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