Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/05/08

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Subject: [Leica] B&W on M8.2...
From: csemetko at (Craig Semetko)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 06:42:48 -0700
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It's unfortunate that you were annoyed by my question. And more  
unfortunate that you seem to think I'm either making up my  
photographer friends or what they said about shooting RAW.

One shoots rock and roll bands, among other things--everything and  
everyone from Miley Cyrus to Ozzy Osbourne to to the Jonas  
Brothers...the other's work appears regularly in the New York Times,  
Time, US News, Forbes, Newsweek...the list goes on. I once asked the  
news photog if she shot in RAW, and she said no, jpegs were fine for  
her. In the most recent conversation, three days ago, I asked the rock  
and roll  photog if he shot in RAW. He said he has occasionally in the  
past, but doesn't bother anymore. When I asked why, he said it takes  
up a lot of space, and, "to be honest, I can't really see any  

Perhaps he didn't use the word "discernible," but I think I got the  
sentiment right. Had I know my veracity was going to be questioned, I  
would've quoted him exactly.

I hope this clears up any confusion for you, and assuages your  




On May 7, 2009, at 10:36 AM, lug-request at wrote:

> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 11:36:03 -0400
> From: Mark Rabiner <mark at>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] B&W on M8.2...
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at>
> Message-ID: <C6287823.4DF3C%mark at>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="US-ASCII"
> Just annoyingly vague.
> Who shooting what?
> Is that what THEY who ever they are said "No discernable difference"?
> I doubt it.
> I think if they are photographers they know there's an obvious big
> difference in crafting a quality image. But even that difference  
> might not
> be worth a deadline involving a whole lot of images.
> Mark William Rabiner
>> From: Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at>
>> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 05:52:29 -0500
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] B&W on M8.2...
>> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Craig Semetko <csemetko at>  
>> wrote:
>>> . It's curious, though, as I have a couple friends who are pretty
>>> accomplished professional photographers who don't bother with RAW  
>>> as they
>>> say it is extra work for little or no discernible difference from  
>>> jpegs.
>> Photography is like sex; sometimes the Pros are more interested in  
>> getting
>> the job done than getting the most satisfaction.   :-)
>> -- 
>> Regards,

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