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Subject: [Leica] the ultimate digest Leica criticism thread
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:54:13 -0800
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On Nov 2, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Philippe Amard wrote:

> Steve and George,
> if I may,
> and quoting from memory:
>
> 'You can't teach anyone anything, you may only place them in a  
> position where they may learn;'
>
> It's been my motto for many years, at home and abroad.
> Amiti?s
> Philippe

as in     "chance favors a prepared mind"  a related thought,  for  
learning and for making huge productive steps from what one has learned,


Steve


>
>
> George Lottermoser wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> I suspect we're a whole lot closer to the truth with this revision,
>> "those who can't (or don't) do tend to pontificate."
>>
>> (and further, pontificating does not equal teaching)
>>
>> ;~)
>>
>> Regards,
>> George Lottermoser
>> george at imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>
>>> hi George,  :-)
>>>
>>> as I expected, even with my apology to you included, this gets   
>>> panned as it did a couple of years ago.
>>>
>>> I didn't say that the non doers are good teachers , just that  
>>> they  teach...
>>>
>>> I do believe that there is truth to this, if you allow that non   
>>> doers teach, even though they are lousy teachers...
>>>
>>> me....I have always been a doer first, though also a teacher, for   
>>> almost 40 years...I have seen the good, the bad, and the ugly...
>>>
>>> but, what I mean of course, is that folks that can't do, often   
>>> present themselves as experts...
>>>
>>> (present company excepted...)
>>>
>>>
>>> simple , ehh...
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:51 AM, George Lottermoser wrote:
>>>
>>>> this "quote" needs to die.
>>>> lousy teachers
>>>> can't do
>>>> or teach.
>>>> every good teacher
>>>> I ever knew (and know)
>>>> could both do and teach.
>>>>
>>>> many doers I knew (and know)
>>>> can't teach.
>>>>
>>>> doing steadily for 45 years
>>>> taught at college level for 6 years
>>>> and
>>>> thankful for each good teacher in my life
>>>>
>>>> ;~)
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> George Lottermoser
>>>> george at imagist.com
>>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "those that can't do, teach; and those that can't teach, teach  
>>>>> gym"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (and no disrespect to teachers, I was one)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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