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Subject: [Leica] Very OT, PBS - frontline: medicating kids: the ritalin explosion
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:48:56 -0800
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On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:35 PM, Richard Man wrote:

> I'm not an expert, but I can speak on some of this from personal
> experience, both of our kids have ADD.
>
> First of all, child abuse is child abuse. Hitting someone, or locking
> them up for hours, is child abuse. You may argue about the gray areas
> but no amount of justifications work in some cases.

whoa, wait, you just lost me going from paragraph 1 to 2...   how did  
you get there? and why ?





Steve


>
> We, as a nation, is over-medicating our children, and ourselves. May
> be it's pharmaceutical drive to make money, or just an indication that
> our personal health and the health industry are breaking down. When
> 2/3 of Americans are overweight and we are looking for the diet pills,
> the wheels have fallen off the wagons long ago.
>
> ADD kids, and adult, often are the ones that see outside the box. In
> the earlier times, they are the tricksters, the chao ones. The ones
> that move things out of the doldrums. They are not easy to handle, and
> some of them may need medications to help them along, but they are not
> un-attentive, lazy, disruptive because they want to, etc.
>
> Ritalin is often the wrong drugs. What some of these kids need the
> most are time for them to mature, and love and understanding to
> support them.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>>
>> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/medicating/experts/explosion.html
>>
>> I am not at all an expert on this, not even close, but this is eye  
>> opening
>> information.  I've seen data which says as much as  5-7 or 8 % of  
>> American
>> kids are on Ritalin...
>>
>> in principle they have ADHD, but the diagnoses are so suspect, the  
>> criteria
>> so slipshod, that it is thought that half of ADHD kids are not on the
>> medication, and that many of the kids receiving the drug, do not have
>> ADHD...
>>
>>
>> perhaps there are others here that can speak to this...
>>
>
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