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Subject: [Leica] R 250 Telyt for my Nikon D700
From: leicar at q.com (Aram Langhans)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:56:10 -0800
References: <mailman.688.1260735909.38619.lug@leica-users.org>

Wayne.  I think Howard said just about everything about your decision.  I 
would just like to add one thing.

When I made my choice (Canon) there was only one possibility.  Now, I think 
it comes down to one question.

Do you want to still use your R lenses on an R body any time soon?  If so, 
the Canon would be the best choice, over Olympus unless you would like the 
2x crop factor.

If you don't want to use them concurrently on an R body then Nikon is the 
choice for it solves all the Canon exposure problems.  If and when Leica 
announces their solution, you can always reverse the process and use them on 
the "New R".....

My 2 cents.

Aram


> From: H&ECummer <cummer at netvigator.com>
> Subject: [Leica] R 250 Telyt for my Nikon D700
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> Hi Wayne,
> I know you addressed your question to Alastair and I hope you don't
> mind if I weigh in here a bit. I have used my R lenses on Canon DSLRs
> and Olympic DSLRs first before finally migrating to the leitax bayonet
> and Nikon DSLRs. I have the following lenses adapted, 19 Elmarit,
> first version, 28 Elmarit ROM, 90mm Summicron 3rd cam, 100mm Elmarit
> Macro APO ROM, 180 Telyt APO F3.4, and 400 Telyt f6.8 (in process of
> having the bayonet changed). I gravitated to the Nikon platform
> because long ago I was a Nikon user and I have a bunch of old lenses
> (like the 58 f1.2 Nikkor Nocti) that I wanted to use, and you can dial
> the focal lengths and apertures of these lenses into the D700 (and the
> D200 and D300) and use aperture mode with accurate metering. Leica R
> lens with the Leitax bayonets (see <leitax.com>) can also be dialed
> into these cameras and the exposure made with the lenses is linear -
> meaning that as you shut down the aperture manually the shutter speed
> slows down in a linear fashion. There is no auto diaphragm for the R
> lenses with any of these adapters or systems so you have to use stop
> down metering with a darkening image as you stop down. Accurate
> exposure is problematic with the Canon system (I was using a 5D Mk 1)
> and on the Fred Miranda site there are many many pages on the exposure
> anomalies with the Canon cameras. You can easily work around the
> problem but it adds another variable. With the Nikon system you get
> focus confirmation without having to use a chipped adapter - although
> the focus arrows move in the wrong direction for R lenses - because
> the lenses rotate the "wrong" way for Nikon focusing. Using the
> Olympus system (I used a 330E and then an E3) with an adapter - you
> don't have the exposure linearity problem - and using magnified live
> view you can nail focus but the process is slow and cumbersome and
> really requires a tripod. I also chose the D700 because of the ability
> to set auto ISO and limit slow shutter speeds. The D700 ISO
> performance to ISO 6400 is awesome - and was the world's best when I
> bought the D700. I understand the new 5d MKII is now equal or better.
>
> Please see:
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Howard+Cummer/R+lenses+on+Nikon+D700/
>
> there are three pages of R lens photos taken with the D700 in the LUG
> folder.
>
> In sum, I think you can go either way - Nikon or Canon - it really
> depends on how you like the handling of either system but as you can
> read above I prefer the Nikon after trying the other systems.
>
> Cheers
>
> Howard.
>