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Subject: [Leica] Hassy CFV workflow suggestions?
From: imagist3 at mac.com (George Lottermoser)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:30:31 -0600
References: <C79AD34E.18889%gkase@ccfc.com> <8341105bd5892ce6ef64879a587856e8.squirrel@emailmg.globat.com> <19548.25699.qm@web82107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7ac27f4f1002131807q44de0868pf4c9878dd81c8c97@mail.gmail.com> <9A917C73-00C9-41EB-84F8-3965B6A63CD8@mac.com> <997149.7455.qm@web82104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <F562CECA-38BF-4566-80E1-603F06C944DD@mac.com>

P.S. and the calumet rep who demo'd the back to me
assured me that LR would open the files.
and he was correct (on my system).

Regards,
George Lottermoser
george at imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com/blog
http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist

On Feb 13, 2010, at 8:27 PM, George Lottermoser wrote:

> yes. they are referenced as .3FR files directly from the back.
>
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george at imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>
> On Feb 13, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Bob Adler wrote:
>
>> Were they the RAW files?
>>  Bob Adler
>> Palo Alto, CA
>> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 6:10:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Hassy CFV workflow suggestions?
>>
>> I had no trouble opening CFV 39 image files in Lightroom 2.6 when  
>> I tested the back.
>>
>> Regards,
>> George Lottermoser
>> george at imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>
>> On Feb 13, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Richard Man wrote:
>>
>>> I'm pretty sure the Adobe Photoshop and LR both use the ACR  
>>> (Adobe Raw
>>> Converter) engine inside? So if CS4 supports it and LR doesn't,  
>>> then it may
>>> just be a matter of time for the upgrade?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I hope I'm not being redundant with what other's have said here,  
>>>> but I
>>>> don't think LR can import 3f files. CS4 can (Imacon just  
>>>> released the RAW
>>>> converter for CS4) but LR can't.
>>>>
>>>> What you have to do is go in and change the .fff (or whatever it  
>>>> is for the
>>>> files from the back) to .tif. Though you would think this would  
>>>> lose your
>>>> RAW file abilities, it doesn't. It's still the RAW information.  
>>>> This learned
>>>> after a long conversation with an Imacon tech.
>>>>
>>>> Works very well for me with my Imacon scanned RAW (.fff) files  
>>>> into LR.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Bob
>>>>  Bob Adler
>>>> Palo Alto, CA
>>>> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: "afirkin at afirkin.com" <afirkin at afirkin.com>
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 12:05:59 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Hassy CFV workflow suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> George, rant away, I think we all understand ;-) If you don't  
>>>> change
>>>> computers, the software last longer in my experience. But of  
>>>> course by
>>>> buying the 39 you have pretty big files to deal with, not  
>>>> something my
>>>> first iBook could deal with ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers and good luck with LR. I really do like the workflow, and  
>>>> found
>>>> phocus too "focused" on Blad alone.
>>>>
>>>> Alastair
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Mark...nope..photoshop CS won't open em unless you "upgrade" to  
>>>>> CS4 or
>>>>> something else needlessly "feature rich"...
>>>>> Alastair...thanks for that, I now see that LR can actually  
>>>>> create finish
>>>>> files and can use various plug ins and now realize that I can  
>>>>> open the
>>>>> files
>>>>> in photoshop CS and NOT, importantly, "upgrade" to any "face
>>>> recognizing",
>>>>> "GPS locating" "made easy-for-you" "new and better"  
>>>>> software...hell, I
>>>> was
>>>>> really upset that I had to "upgrade" to CS in the first  
>>>>> place...not to
>>>>> mention it took me a while to figure out how to stop iPhoto  
>>>>> from grabbing
>>>>> and "filing" all of my images...sorry for the rant...just can't  
>>>>> stand the
>>>>> constant forced march to having to continually spend more money  
>>>>> to do the
>>>>> same simple task. Anyway, now if I can figure out how the hell
>>>>> LRs file model works so I can fit it into my dyslexic and  
>>>>> disorganized
>>>>> world
>>>>> view, I'll be all set...but now I see at least I can create a  
>>>>> giant
>>>> output
>>>>> file for printing from my print supplier...thanks very much! By  
>>>>> the way,
>>>>> Hasselblad's Phocus has no provisions for outputing files like  
>>>>> LR does
>>>> and
>>>>> since it looks and works very similar to LR, I just assumed LR was
>>>> equally
>>>>> functionally disabled. I asked Hasselblad about whether they  
>>>>> were at all
>>>>> worried that other photo processing software that would need to  
>>>>> import
>>>>> Phocus files would alter them somehow and they said they didn't  
>>>>> think any
>>>>> file alteration would occur. I'm not so sure about that...so,  
>>>>> Phocus is
>>>>> out,
>>>>> LR seems to be in and since I do no retouching and only minor  
>>>>> alterations
>>>>> in
>>>>> levels I may not need to go to photoshop CS anymore...just hope  
>>>>> I don't
>>>>> have
>>>>> to "upgrade" LR continuously from now on...Thanks again,
>>>>> George
>>>>> Chicago
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/12/10 8:28 AM, "lug-request at leica-users.org"
>>>>> <lug-request at leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 25
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:57:12 -0500
>>>>>> From: afirkin at afirkin.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Hassy CFV workflow suggestions?
>>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>> <9f1b6d88c5bf21d0db2f9636da96a83c.squirrel at emailmg.globat.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> George,
>>>>>> The blad files are not really supported by the smaller  
>>>>>> companies. I"m
>>>>>> about to get a portable storage device and it won't show the blad
>>>>>> images.
>>>>>> There was a small software called image converter I think, but in
>>>>>> reality
>>>>>> importing into lightroom and automatically converting the  
>>>>>> files into DNG
>>>>>> is probably the best way for you to go and LR really does a  
>>>>>> great job
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> "printing" once you learn it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> alastair
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello...
>>>>>>> I managed to aquire a CFV back for my Hassy V system (hurray!)
>>>>>>> but am really stuck about software. All I want is a quick  
>>>>>>> cheap easy
>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> convert Hassy raw files to be able to use them in Photoshop  
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>> to buy $800 bucks worth of Adobe's Creative Suite. I've got
>>>>>>> Hasselblad's
>>>>>>> Phocus software, which is like Lightroom but you don't have  
>>>>>>> any output
>>>>>>> flexibility (size of print etc) ...and Lightroom is just plain
>>>>>>> frustrating and confusing to me. I don't want any features,  
>>>>>>> filters,
>>>>>>> post
>>>>>>> processing gizmos, skins or any of that...just gimme a usable  
>>>>>>> file in
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> Mac
>>>>>>> version of Photoshop that I already own (CS I think) and let  
>>>>>>> me make
>>>>>>> prints!
>>>>>>> Man, do I hate this fetish that software companies have for  
>>>>>>> layering on
>>>>>>> features that I don't want. In fact, I wish I didn't have to use
>>>>>>> photoshop
>>>>>>> at all and could use a cheap piece of open source software  
>>>>>>> that has NO
>>>>>>> features except file translation and output...period. Anyone  
>>>>>>> got any
>>>>>>> suggestions?
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> George
>>>>>>> Chicago
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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