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Subject: [Leica] roger ebert just posted one of my photos on his blog
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:18:48 +0100
References: <C7C2E496.2DC40%chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com> <EB6A7B66-D72D-4237-A00E-6FA7E33A60DD@frozenlight.eu> <E17FA3A1-5CB4-4CE7-936D-1DB389AFF334@gmail.com>

Not wishing to beat a dead horse, but (1) I was not suggesting that Kyle sue 
Ebert, (2) of course it is for Kyle to decide what, if anything, to do, 
however, (3) I still think it is wrong for a man who makes his living 
reviewing intellectual property (aka movies) to use Kyle's picture without 
attribution to Kyle. Attributing it to Wikipedia does not cut the mustard 
IMO although it is of course better than nothing.

Anyway, it is Kyle's business, not mine, and his opinion is the only one 
that really matters.

Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
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On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:07 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

> I didn't mean to suggest that he used cancer as an excuse to steal a 
> picture. Suing someone is something that one can do, not must do. I doubt 
> that Ebert is making any money from Kyle's picture. Joe DiMaggio wanted to 
> sue Simon and Garfunkle for using his name in "Mrs. Robinson", and Ray 
> Bradbury wanted to sue Michael Moore for using the word "Farenheit" in the 
> movie name "Farenheit 911". I think one needs to pick one's battles and 
> not everyone needs to be sued.
> 
> Jeffery
> 
> 
> On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:17 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> 
>> OK, now I remember too--"Siskel and Ebert" on some TV channel when I 
>> lived in the US (until 1995). That rang the bell.
>> 
>> However...having cancer and being famous is no excuse for stealing Kyle's 
>> picture.
>> 
>> Nathan
>> 
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>> 
>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:08 AM, Chris Crawford wrote:
>> 
>>> I didn't know he had cancer. I just googled him after Jeffery's 
>>> reference to
>>> him having no lower jaw and not being able to speak. From what I read, 
>>> he's
>>> had a hard recovery but is slowly getting better. Hope the best for him. 
>>> I
>>> never watch TV anymore and haven't gone to a movie in years; pop culture
>>> doesn't much interest me, so I never realized Ebert had been sick. Last 
>>> time
>>> I saw him on TV he was working with Gene Siskel, who I didn't know had 
>>> died
>>> over ten yrs ago!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Chris Crawford
>>> Fine Art Photography
>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>> 260-424-0897
>>> 
>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>> 
>>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/14/10 7:02 PM, "Robert D. Baron" <rbaron at concentric.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> http://www.esquire.com/features/roger-ebert-0310
>>>> 
>>>> I follow his blog and twitter posts.  He is worth reading regularly;
>>>> he has a lot to say, most of which I admire, enjoy and agree with.
>>>> 
>>>> --Bob
>>>> 
>>>> ==On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Jeffery Smith <jsmith342 at 
>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I'd cut the poor guy some slack. He has no lower jaw, cannot speak, 
>>>>> and I
>>>>> have to admire his will to live.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jeffery
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 14, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Chris Crawford wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> He's a famous movie critic in the USA. I'd not let him use it for 
>>>>>> free, he
>>>>>> can afford to pay.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>>>> Fine Art Photography
>>>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>>>> 260-424-0897
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/14/10 6:08 PM, "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Never heard of this guy, but whoever he is, he has violated the 
>>>>>>> terms of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> license you grant for this photo by no crediting you. You should 
>>>>>>> send him a
>>>>>>> nasty message.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2010, at 2:32 AM, Kyle Cassidy wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> now, he doesn't pause to wax eloquently about how cinematic the 
>>>>>>>> lighting
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> and how i'd make a great DP .... but he posted it, nonetheless...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> rockin the steampunk....
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ygm3bq4
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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