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Subject: [Leica] widest lens used?
From: jsmith342 at gmail.com (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:24:34 -0500
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Particularly since the less expensive Planar is nicely focused at f/2.


On Apr 2, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Richard Man wrote:

>> From what I understand from the interweb, the original new release 
>> optimizes
> focus at F2.8 or something like that and Zeiss got flak for doing i,t - why
> get a 1.5 lens if it's not focus correctly at 1.5? The later releases 
> change
> the optimal focal aperture to 1.5.
> 
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Robert Meier <robertmeier at usjet.net> 
> wrote:
> 
>> That means it's out of allignment.   It should be alligned to focus 
>> dead-on
>> at full aperture.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>> 
>> The problem seems to be that it shifts INTO focus when stopped down, but
>>> is not in focus wide open. Maybe Mehrdad can help us out here. He got his
>>> Sonnar modified by Zeiss.
>>> 
>>> Jeffery
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Robert Meier wrote:
>>> 
>>> Focus shift normally means a lens shifts focus as it's stopped down.   It
>>>> should focus accurately wide open.
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 9:25 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not sure which way it shifts. I just have a hell of a time getting
>>>>> it in focus at 1.5.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jeffery
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 9:04 AM, slobodan Dimitrov wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's interesting! Usually the focus shift tends to go back, as
>>>>>> opposed to forward.
>>>>>> S.d.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 6:04 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It has been out for a few years now. I believe that it is a faithful
>>>>>>> reproduction of the earlier optical formula. Some have had trouble 
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> focus shift on it, and I think Zeiss can modify the lens to address 
>>>>>>> that. I
>>>>>>> have trouble getting things in focus with it wide open, as you can 
>>>>>>> see here.
>>>>>>> I was focusing on the eyes, but didn't hit the mark.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.400tx.com/files/NOLABW/26.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jeffery
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 7:03 AM, Lluis Ripoll Querol wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Impressive!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I didn' know that Sonnar 50/1.5 was also available in M mount, I
>>>>>>>> suppose is quite rare. My Sonnar's (50 and 85) are Contax original 
>>>>>>>> mount and
>>>>>>>> I use an special adapter Contax RF to Leica M.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> El 02/04/2010, a las 0:39, Jeffery Smith escribi?:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Do you have this many fingers?
>>>>>>>>> Canon   50/1.2 (LTM)
>>>>>>>>> Canon   50/1.4 (LTM)
>>>>>>>>> Elmar   50/2.8 (LTM)
>>>>>>>>> Elmar   50/2.8 (M)
>>>>>>>>> Elmar   50/3.5 (LTM)
>>>>>>>>> Heliar  50/2 (M-collaps.)
>>>>>>>>> Heliar  50/2 (M)
>>>>>>>>> Heliar  50/3.5 (S)
>>>>>>>>> Heliar  50/3.5 (LTM)
>>>>>>>>> Hexanon 50/1.2 (M)
>>>>>>>>> Hexanon 50/2 (M)
>>>>>>>>> Hexanon 50/2.5 (LTM)
>>>>>>>>> Nikkor  50/1.4 (LTM)
>>>>>>>>> Nikkor  50/1.4 (S)
>>>>>>>>> Nokton  50/1.1 (M)
>>>>>>>>> Nokton  50/1.5 (LTM)
>>>>>>>>> Nokton  50/1.5 (S)
>>>>>>>>> Planar  50/2
>>>>>>>>> Serenar 50/1.8 (LTM)
>>>>>>>>> Skopar  50/2.5 (LTM)
>>>>>>>>> Skopar  50/2.5 (S)
>>>>>>>>> Sonnar  50/1.5 (C)
>>>>>>>>> Sonnar  50/1.5 (LTM)
>>>>>>>>> Sonnar  50/1.5 (M)
>>>>>>>>> Summarit        50/1.5 (LTM)
>>>>>>>>> Summicron       50/2 (M.)
>>>>>>>>> Summicron       50/2 (collaps.)
>>>>>>>>> Summilux        50/1.4 asph
>>>>>>>>> Summilux        50/1.4 pre-asph
>>>>>>>>> Summitar        50/2 (M)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I didn't count the Tri-Elmar as 1/3 of a 50.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jeffery
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Richard Man wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ha ha ha
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Aren't you Jeffery "More 50mm than my fingers" Smith?!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Jim Nichols <
>>>>>>>>>> jhnichols at lighttube.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> What's the current count, Jeffery?  I have only about half a
>>>>>>>>>>> dozen.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>>>>>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffery Smith" <
>>>>>>>>>>> jsmith342 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 4:19 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] widest lens used?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I do, I do!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeffery
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Richard Man wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you even have a 50mm lens :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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