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Subject: [Leica] widest lens used?
From: lluisripollquerol at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll Querol)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:08:06 +0200
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Jeffery,

I agree your opinion, the Sonnar has an special touch, for this reason  
you are a great 50 collector and expert and I'm some one that I like  
play too with old lenses... There are still some 50's I would like  
add ..., but hey are expensive lenses... Angenieux, Cooke Panchro  
Speed, Zunow....

Cheers
Lluis


El 05/04/2010, a las 20:11, Jeffery Smith escribi?:

> It's entire possible that the Sonnar simply isn't a good performer  
> wide open. If I use it as a street lens (during the day), the  
> softness at 1.5 would not be a problem, but with a couple of  
> Summiluxes available at that aperture, I tend to just leave the  
> Sonnar behind.
>
> Jeffery
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Lluis Ripoll Querol wrote:
>
>> Hi Jeffery,
>>
>> I've followed your comments about focus shift, I think my lens  
>> don't show such problem, well it is not a very good perfomer at  
>> 1.5. What I'm very surprised too is what you tell about your Sonnar  
>> Russian copy, I suppose you are talking about the Jupiter 3, I've  
>> saw this lens on e-bay between  80 to 150$, I've never decided for  
>> it because I already have the Sonnar and on the other hand I've  
>> always heard that it is no easy find a good Russian lens, maybe you  
>> should buy 2 or 3 to be sure to have a good one. I didn't know this  
>> Bessa Contax, it looks as a lovely camera.
>>
>> Maybe you already know this link:
>> http://www.zeisscamera.com/first.shtml
>>
>> Cheers
>> Lluis
>>
>>
>> El 03/04/2010, a las 3:11, Jeffery Smith escribi?:
>>
>>> I have an aluminum or some God-awful alloy Russian-made 50/1.5  
>>> Sonnar that focuses better than the Zeiss M lens, as does the  
>>> Contax C lens on my Contax. In retrospect, it would have been  
>>> wiser (by about $750) for me to buy Stephen Gandy's Bessa Contax  
>>> mount camera body and put the old Zeiss lens on it. The Zeiss site  
>>> says that they 50/1.5 improves at 5.6 and smaller. Is there any  
>>> lens that doesn't look pretty good at 5.6 and smaller? I've got a  
>>> great 50/3.5 Heliar for that. I do like the OOF aspects of the  
>>> Sonnar. That said, it seems to be an outdoor lens.
>>>
>>> Jeffery
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 7:58 PM, Greg Lorenzo wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> hopsternew at gmail.com writes in part:
>>>>
>>>>> The Sonnar was interesting. This sample appeared very well made  
>>>>> like all of
>>>>> this series that I have handled or owneed. Of course Zeiss  
>>>>> themselves say
>>>>> that it is meant to be a reproduction of a classic design, it  
>>>>> does focus
>>>>> shift and it has its own distinct character.
>>>>
>>>> I tried out a Zeiss ZM 50/1.5 for a few days after finding I  
>>>> quite liked my Soviet made copy with my M film cameras. The new  
>>>> Zeiss lens being of better build quality then the Soviet lens. To  
>>>> my surprise I found the Zeiss lens to be soft/soft/soft to about  
>>>> f4. Nothing coming out in sharp focus. Thinking my eyes were the  
>>>> problem I put the Soviet lens on for a few shots on the next roll  
>>>> and problem solved I had sharp focus from f1.5 to 4.
>>>>
>>>> Didn't buy the Zeiss lens and now I have two Soviet 50/1.5 lens  
>>>> as I found one NIB which was made in 1963 (reportedly a good year  
>>>> for these lenses).
>>>>
>>>> Greg Lorenzo
>>>> Calgary, Canada                                    
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