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Subject: [Leica] Advice wanted for carry camera.
From: digiratidoc at gmail.com (James Laird)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:25:02 -0500
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My vote would be a Canon G7. It has a viewfinder (squinty by there if
you need it), takes great photos and it is smaller and more pocketable
than the G11. I know cause I've had both. My 2 cents.

Jim Laird

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:29 PM, James Laird <digiratidoc at gmail.com> 
wrote:
> Vince/Mark,
>
> I've just read a rumor that Panasonic is planning a new better
> viewfinder for the GF-1. If the rumors are true he may want to wait
> 'cause the GF-1 with an accessory finder as good as the G1 finder
> might just be what he needs. Hell I might even buy one! (Mind you it's
> just a rumor;)
>
> Jim
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
> wrote:
>>> Larry
>>> I think there is only one line of point and shoot cameras that fits the 
>>> bill
>>> you're putting forward: superb quality images (indeed shoots in raw);
>>> pocketable; with viewfinder. It's the Canon PowerShot G11. Previous
>>> generations G9 and G10 also just as good and can be found used.
>>>
>>> Read about it and gaze upon it here.
>>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/643177-REG/Canon_3632B001_PowerShot_G11_
>>> Digital_Camera.html
>>>
>>> and here:
>>>
>>> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canong11/
>>>
>>> I believe dpreview said they liked the resolution better on the G10. They
>>> are comprehensive and a bit nitpicky but very reliable I find.
>>>
>>> Anyone one of the Canon G-series is the way to go I think. Several pro
>>> photographers I know who do all their professional work in medium format 
>>> use
>>> the Canon G's as their carry around cameras which is where I learned of 
>>> them
>>> and used them.
>>>
>>> Good luck. This is the one I'm sure.
>>>
>>> Vince
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Lawrence Zeitlin <lrzeitlin at 
>>> gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> My wife calls me an adventitious photographer. She says I don't 
>>>> compose, I
>>>> just shoot.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the last 50 years I've carried a camera with me most of the time and
>>>> react almost instantly to a photo op. The camera has to be pocket sized 
>>>> so
>>>> that it won't interfere with whatever else I am doing. For years it was 
>>>> an
>>>> old Leica IIIc with a 35 mm f2.8 Canon lens or a 50 mm Elmar that could 
>>>> fit
>>>> into the side pocket of a windbreaker. When I traveled it was usually a
>>>> Rollei 35 in a small belt holster. I even carried a Minox when I wore a
>>>> suit
>>>> and tie. True, I owned bigger and more professional equipment which I 
>>>> used
>>>> when I had to take serious pictures but they were usually too bulky to
>>>> carry
>>>> everyday. But for a variety of reasons I gave up my wet darkroom and my
>>>> film
>>>> cameras became too inconvenient to use. Now I carry a wafer thin Canon
>>>> SD1200IS. It has a 10 MP sensor and is smaller and lighter than any of 
>>>> the
>>>> others (except the Minox).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The big problem is that when I post pictures to the LUG, I can see 
>>>> obvious
>>>> quality differences between my pocket cameras and the M8 and M9 Leicas 
>>>> and
>>>> DSLRs that most Luggers use. What I would like is suggestions for a 
>>>> carry
>>>> digital camera that will close the gap. I don't expect M9 quality but I
>>>> don't want to be embarrassed either. My criteria are the the camera has 
>>>> to
>>>> be smaller and much lighter than a Barnack Leica and have an optical
>>>> viewfinder. The optical finder is necessary because I wear bifocals and
>>>> have
>>>> to bob my head up and down like a pigeon when using a LCD camera screen.
>>>> I'm
>>>> not sure if any of the new 4/3 cameras will fill the bill but I'm not
>>>> opposed to the format. I own an Olympus DSLR and I find it more than
>>>> adequate. The problem is that I live more than 50 miles from any large
>>>> camera store and I don't get to see and handle any of the newer compact
>>>> cameras.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can any Lugger offer suggestions for a good carry camera?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Larry Z
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The ?sensor of a Canon G11 or earlier has a diagonal of 9.5mm
>> So a normal lens for the camera is 9.5mm lens!
>> A crop factor of 4.55!
>> Your 50 becomes a ?227.5mm lens!
>>
>> 43.3 square mm's.!
>>
>> Makes super 8 look big.
>>
>> ?4/3s is 225
>> APS-C (1.5 crop circle factor) is 329.
>>
>> 329 / 43.3 ?= 7.6
>>
>> Not a serious contender by a long shot.
>> 7.6 times not so.
>>
>>
>>
>> [Rabs]
>> Mark William Rabiner
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>


In reply to: Message from passaro.vince at gmail.com (Vince Passaro) ([Leica] Advice wanted for carry camera.)
Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Advice wanted for carry camera.)
Message from digiratidoc at gmail.com (James Laird) ([Leica] Advice wanted for carry camera.)