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Subject: [Leica] Which camera to take to Israel?
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:52:23 +0530
References: <4CA4323D.3060007@threshinc.com> <4CA46401.6060808@whitedogs.co.uk>

Mark/Peter,
The best way to get rid of a frozen shoulder is yoga (or tai chi, I would
guess). I had a severe attack a few years ago, and after starting a course
of yoga (with no medication), I was back to golf in 9 months.
Cheers
Jayanand

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Mark Pope <mark at whitedogs.co.uk> wrote:

> Peter,
>
> my wife Karin has a frozen shoulder too, so I know (albeit secondhand) how
> debilitating this condition can be.
>
> With regard to your outfit(s), I would be inclined to take the M8.
> If weight is really at a premium, then you may find you could get away with
> the 35mm f1.4 and 90mm lenses.  The whole outfit would easily fit in a 
> fanny
> pack.  I often have the M8 with 28 or 35 and 90 in a small Lowepro pack.  
> No
> weight on necks, shoulders (or in my case, lower back).  You'll get good
> low-light capability with the 35mm and it sits nicely in between the 28mm
> and 50mm lenses.
>
> The second option for me would be 28/50/90.  The  28 f3.5 is pretty dinky,
> so wouldn't take up much space or add very much weight.
>
> Have you compared the weights of the two outfits - I can't imagine that
> there is that much in it to be honest.
>
>
>
>
>
> Mark Pope,
> Swindon, Wilts
> UK
>
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>
> Peter Klein wrote:
>
>>  It looks like we are going to Israel for 2 weeks later this fall. It will
>> be our first time there. We'll be spending the first week in and near Tel
>> Aviv and Haifa, sometimes on our own and sometimes with relatives who live
>> there. Then we'll take a weeklong bus tour around the country. We'll be
>> moving around quite a bit, mostly on foot or in buses. So whatever I take
>> will be carried around a lot.
>>
>> I'll have a decision to make about cameras. I could take:
>>
>>    * M8, 28/3.5 VC, 35/2 or 35/1.4, maybe 50/1.5 and/or 90/3.5 VC.  This
>> is what I usually travel with.
>>    * G1, 14-54 f/4-ish  kit zoom, 20/1.7, and VC 90/3.5. This worked
>> pretty well for me on my recent Canada trip.
>>
>> Right now, the heart is saying Leica and the head is saying G1. I have a
>> painful "frozen" right shoulder, which probably won't get better until 
>> next
>> year sometime, so it's better to keep things light on my neck and other
>> shoulder.  I'm also developing a cataract on my right (shooting) eye.  So
>> far it's just softened things a little and lowered my visual contrast.  My
>> glasses still correct my right eye to 20/20, so it's nowhere near the
>> surgery stage.  It's not really hurt my ability to focus yet, but it has
>> reduced my confidence.
>>
>> In favor of the M8:
>>
>>    * Higher image quality.
>>    * If I want a big print for my wall, likelier to have sufficient IQ.
>>    * Better low-light ability for family, dusk & night shots, or cloudy
>> days.
>>    * Optical VF and no blackout, so faster to shoot and get what I saw.
>>    * No issues with autofocus focusing on the wrong thing
>>    * All the controls are where God and HCB intended  :-)
>>    * What's the point of having a Leica if I don't take it on a
>> highlight-of-my-life trip?
>>    * Camera is insured
>>    * I could take a fanny pack or photo vest to keep some of the weight
>> off the bad shoulder
>>
>> In favor of the G1:
>>
>>    * Image quality, while not Leica, is probably good enough esp. in
>> sunlight and 8x10-ish or less.
>>    * Significantly lighter, smaller kit
>>    * The 20/1.7 is a great lens; I'm still covered for reasonable lower
>> light, though not for true "available dark"
>>    * Won't be changing lenses nearly so often.
>>    * More versatile.
>>    * The 90/3.5 makes a great almost-200m equivalent.
>>    * Don't have to worry about focusing (except for the 90).
>>    * If it gets damaged or stolen, it's not the end of the world.
>>    * Built-in flash for family snaps if necessary, and for fill in the
>> bright desert.
>>    * Won't have to worry about cleaning the sensor (dust-buster built-in).
>>
>> What do you think?  There are some genuine trade-offs here, and I really
>> could go either way.
>>
>> --Peter
>>
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In reply to: Message from pklein at threshinc.com (Peter Klein) ([Leica] Which camera to take to Israel?)
Message from mark at whitedogs.co.uk (Mark Pope) ([Leica] Which camera to take to Israel?)