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Subject: [Leica] 80 Summilux R (was 'Am I being stupid? (R content)')
From: ricc at embarqmail.com (Ric Carter)
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 19:30:22 -0400
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aaaahhhhh, rachel again

ric

On Nov 6, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Marty Deveney wrote:

> The 90 APO is very impressive, but at portrait distances it is less
> impressive than further away - the absence of a floating element
> starts to show and there is noticeable curvature of field.  This was
> the motivation for the design used in the 75 Summicron, which focuses
> to 0.75 m and gets you a tighter crop, and is the M lens I'd recommend
> if you'd like a very modern rendering lens for portraits.
> 
> The 80 R-Summilux is a very nice older design, but for less money you
> can get a Nikkor 85/1.4 and an F3 and the photos will be
> indistiguishable, except possibly unless you have a bunch of other
> Leica R glass and shoot in colour and are not willing to manipulate to
> match the colours. It would also mean that you may have to carry a
> bunch of extra gear (which is also heavy gear).
> 
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/Rachel/File0846.jpg.html
> 
> I kept the Nikkor but returned the test sample 80 Summilux because I
> like the F3 better than any of the R cameras and I already have a
> bunch of other Nikon SLR lenses.
> 
> Marty
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
> wrote:
>> Big difference though between an old Leitz Canada Summicron 90 for the R
>> system and a brand new razor sharp cutting edge
>> LEICA APO-SUMMICRON-R 90 mm f/2 ASPH whose specs outdo the 100 macro which
>> was spec king for a few decades. We should be specific as to what we are
>> talking about.
>> I'd be shooting with it.
>> And I am now as I have it for the M and I think is the same lens expect it
>> has an M on it with an M mount.
>> There is nothing "slow" about an 90mm f2 lens. Especially when shooting
>> digitally.
>> Leica seems to me which is why I like it to be a company which gets 
>> smarter
>> as it goes along. When it comes out with a new lens its better than what
>> comes before. Usually by a long shot. As everything they've learned about
>> optics during that time gets put into that lens. The old classic designs 
>> are
>> great as long as I get my basics covered first. And my basics are the
>> current offerings from Leica. Their most recent designs. And I don't mind
>> getting their ears. Tip of their nose even. Glasses. More than just their
>> eyelashes.
>> 
>> 
>> --------------------
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> mark at rabinergroup.com
>> Cars:   http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Tim Gray <tgray at 125px.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:09:00 -0400
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: [Leica] 80 Summilux R (was 'Am I being stupid? (R content)')
>>> 
>>> In my talk of Leica R stuff, I completely forgot about the 80 Summilux.  
>>> Any
>>> comments on this lens compared to the 90 Summicron?  What's a good price 
>>> for
>>> the 80?
>>> 
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