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Subject: [Leica] Time Photos of the Year
From: benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney)
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 08:17:07 +1030
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I think they are *better* without the captions, exactly.

Marty

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:50 AM, kyle cassidy on the lug
<leicaslacker at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think people are sometimes misinterpreting the concept of what an image 
> needs to be a success. The photo needs to be good by itself. It needs to 
> be worthy of hanging on a wall and being successful as a visual object. 
> Steve McCurray's Afghan Girl photo is a successful photo whether or not 
> you know who she is and why she's where she is, Thomas Franklin's photo of 
> the Firefighters raising the flag in the rubble of 9/11 is a beautiful and 
> poignant image regardless of whether or not you know the exact 
> circumstances. This doesn't mean that we don't need or want to know the 
> circumstances or that they're not part of the story.
>
> The thing to keep in mind is that at some point in time your image will be 
> viewed without the textual context, without your name, possibly without 
> any real frame of time reference. Next time you walk through an art 
> museum, look at the anonymous medieval and renaissance portraits. Imagine 
> your photo on those walls. If it needs a tag next to it saying "Fred and 
> Joe the first time they saw one another after being rescued from a sinking 
> ship in 1944" in order for people to say "my, that's a nice photo" -- THEN 
> it's failed. If they say "look at that beautiful photo, I wonder what's 
> going on" then you've succeeded. But the fact that National Geographic did 
> a story about Afghan refugees doesn't hurt Steve McCurray's photo -- it's 
> already a good photo, it's already a success.
>
> I haven't looked at the Best of Time photos yet, but I'm certain that 
> every one of them is a good photo without the caption.
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Ric Carter wrote:
>
>> and, if a writer needs a photo with his piece, he's failed to tell the 
>> story?
>>
>> This is something we get a little carried away with here from time to 
>> time.
>>
>> If this were true, we'd not need writing. Time Magazine could thin up and 
>> go with a single photo per page. (Would they need headlines?)
>>
>> A picture that carries its story is wonderful, but one that carries the 
>> whole story is (so far as I know) non-existent.
>>
>> Our world is full of wonderful, beautiful, successful photographs that 
>> are improved by a caption and occasionally full-fledged, long-form 
>> writing.
>>
>> ric
>>
>> On Dec 12, 2010, at 4:20 AM, Marty Deveney wrote:
>>
>>> If you need to add words, you've
>>> failed.
>>
>>
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