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Subject: [Leica] 35mm Summicron R lens - good , bad, so so?
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:57:23 -0400

You mean sch?ner?


Mark William Rabiner
Photography



> From: Robert Meier <robertmeier at usjet.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:30:15 -0500 (CDT)
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] 35mm Summicron R lens - good , bad, so so?
> 
> Das is ein sehr sh?ner K?lner Dom!
> 
> 
> On Jun 21, 2011, at 11:19 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> 
>> I really think on most camera lists with guys trading back and forth
>> opinions on a lens they've bought and sold back and forth there'd
>> be showing
>> uploads of examples they'd shot with that lens early on or at least
>> some
>> time during the thread. It would not be "oh I looked at mine the
>> other day
>> and it looked real nice". Because here its really sounding like
>> which lens
>> is more fun to fondle. The "Mandler" or the non Mandler.
>> It sounding like the Mandler makes a better handler.
>> 
>> Me whenever I like a lens its always because some where along the
>> line I
>> seemed to have taken a picture with it. Then I blow some of I it up
>> in my
>> darkroom. Then hang it on the wall or put it in a portfolio and
>> show it to
>> people.  That's when I start liking the lens, seeing what results
>> it makes
>> for me.  Not because it feels real good in my hand one day ... Here
>> its now
>> sounding like all theoretical rhetoric. I really think those days
>> of just
>> BS'ing on photo chat lists are over.
>> 
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> By the way here's a shot I did with my 21mm M Elmarit 2.8.
>> The darkroom 16x20s I'd  made with it made my former wide champ my
>> Nikkor 24
>> 2.8 look very average and unremarkable. Non scintillating.
>> But like the prairie home companion guy says we're all very much
>> slightly
>> above average and that's just find and dandy. (to paraphrase)
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 060929_lhsa_wetz_158.jpg.html
>> Its the K?lner Dom (Dome of Cologne)
>> 21mm Leica Elmarit Asph Ilford XP2 film
>> 060 yellow green filter
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:18:59 -0500
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] 35mm Summicron R lens - good , bad, so so?
>>> 
>>> Vic,
>>> 
>>> I have the 28 Elmarit-R, which is fairly compact.  Would work
>>> great on the
>>> R9, but is a little hard to focus on my Oly DSLRs.
>>> 
>>> Jim Nichols
>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Vick Ko" <vick.ko at sympatico.ca>
>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] 35mm Summicron R lens - good , bad, so so?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Thanks Marty.
>>>> 
>>>> I sold my 35/1.4 R, partially due to it being too heavy.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm thinking of getting a 35/2 R.  Or maybe only reserving my
>>>> 35mm focal
>>>> length shooting to M camera.
>>>> 
>>>> But I would like a small R lens to use on my R9.  I only have
>>>> superwides
>>>> and tele's for it.
>>>> 
>>>> regards
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Vick
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/21/2011 8:01 AM, Marty Deveney wrote:
>>>>> I just played with some 35mm R lenses recently.  The Mandler
>>>>> version
>>>>> of the lens is really great.  It's very flare resistant with light
>>>>> sources in the frame, has excellent colour reproduction and few
>>>>> serious flaws.  It occasionally flares when there are diffuse,
>>>>> bright
>>>>> sources of light outside the frame, much like the 50/2 Summicron-M
>>>>> six-element versions.  With an SLR you can usually see the flare
>>>>> before you shoot.  The Summilux-R is better until about f2.8-4,
>>>>> where
>>>>> they become equal, and has better close up and near-far performance
>>>>> because of its floating element.  But the Summilux has more optical
>>>>> vignetting, and has a 67mm filter thread, and is much heavier,
>>>>> instead
>>>>> of 55 for the Summicron.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marty
>>>> 
>>>> 
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