[Leica] LUG Digest, Vol 48, Issue 204

[mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)]

Well that's how I felt in the days of film. I like most photographers I knew
used a 24x36mm format camera when that was the best for the job. But when I
needed medium format I used that and when I needed large format sheet film I
used that.
Now that its digital I also anticipate getting when I can into medium format
as that level of quality is for sure much fantastic a step up and and worth
it. Two things are slowing me down. The extreme cost. And the fact that a
full frame DSLR can do so much. From the very beginning people were saying
that a full frame DSLR replaced medium format. I never bought that opinion.
Bu they do have a point. Its way more capable than film SLR's of the 35mm
variety. You feel less like you need a Hasselblad when you are shooting a
full frame DSLR. You feel like there's nothing much you can't shoot and
shoot well when you're shooting a full frame DSLR. Or an M9 I'm sure.
This is what irks me when people with Leica R glass go out and by an APS-C
format camera and act as if its "personal preference".
Its not that cropped format shooting is so bad its that full frame  shooting
is so good.
-- 
Mark R.



> From: Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 08:08:11 +0200
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Digest, Vol 48, Issue 204
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> Since we now know from you that being a "real photographer" is a function 
> of
> the equipment one has, I cannot imagine any real photographer shooting that
> wimpy little 24x36mm format any longer.
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> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
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> On Aug 13, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> 
>> You are putting gorgeous Leica R glass on a cheap cropped camera marketed 
>> to
>> amateurs and calling it "personal choice".  I think of something else to
>> call it. One can do any damned dumb thing and file it under "personal
>> choice".
>> 
>> - putting Leica glass designed for full frame on a cropped camera is a 
>> real
>> enigma especially the Leica glass cost what it cost and they tend to be in
>> relation to Canon/Nikon - bloated; the reason being they are taking great
>> steps to make sure they are excellent way out to the edges.
>> 
>> If you have great Leica R glass you want to put to good use for sure wait
>> for the extra pay checks or whatever to come in and get a full frame 
>> camera.
>> Preferably a D700 or D3.
>> Putting them on a cropped camera at this point is nothing short of
>> exasperating.
>> -- 
>> Mark R.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Aram Langhans <leicar at q.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 12:18:13 -0700
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Digest, Vol 48, Issue 204
>>> 
>>> Hi Peter.  I bought the D7000 in November and have loved it.  It was
>>> replacing a Canon XTi.  As you have noted, the viewfinder is not as good 
>>> as
>>> a D700, but it is way better than all the other cropped cameras I have 
>>> seen,
>>> except maybe the Canon 7D (equal).  I have converted a few Leica R 
>>> lenses to
>>> Nikon mount and they work well. My biggest concern was the viewfinder of 
>>> my
>>> old Rebel, but the D7000 viewfinder is very usable for my 61 year old 
>>> eyes.
>>> 
>>> I opted for it rather than the D700 mainly for size and weight.  I have 
>>> no
>>> doubt that the D700 is a better body, but it was not that much better 
>>> that
>>> size/weight did not win out hand down with the D7000.  I can easily get
>>> usable photos at ISO 1600.  Not needed to go any higher yet, so I am not
>>> sure about 3200.  Easy button placement compared to my Rebel.   If you 
>>> are
>>> really into telephoto shots (don't think you are), then the crop factor
>>> helps a lot.  Less weighty lenses and less expensive lenses, and using 
>>> the
>>> "sweet spot" of the sensor.  Wide angle is another issue, but solvable.  
>>> I
>>> did not have any real wide Leica glass, so I have opted for Nikon glass 
>>> to
>>> get me wide.
>>> 
>>> I think Marty sums it up nicely.  Personal choice based on the 
>>> advantages of
>>> each for your shooting style.  Quality, I don't think you can go wrong 
>>> with
>>> either.
>>> 
>>> Aram
>>> 
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