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Subject: [Leica] PESO: America, from Occupy Philadelphia
From: robertmeier at usjet.net (Robert Meier)
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:25:15 -0500 (CDT)
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Ken,

"The Buffet Rule:"   Haven't you been following the news?

Robert

On Oct 16, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Ken Carney wrote:

> On 10/16/2011 6:33 PM, George Lottermoser wrote:
>> On Oct 16, 2011, at 6:07 PM, Ken Carney<kcarney1 at cox.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> Wonder how all these occupiers were able to get off work for so  
>>> long?
>> Many of the Milwaukee "Occupiers" (a one Saturday event) were  
>> "laid off" or otherwise unemployed; part of that 9.1% as well as  
>> the 99%. I spoke with quite a few degreed professionals with 20  
>> plus year professional careers who have been unable to find "any"  
>> work for 4 to 12 months. Others have been forced into early  
>> retirement. Others are serious students who can no longer finance  
>> their educations; or find employment. The stories are many and  
>> sad. Minorities in Milwaukee have more than 4 times that 9%  
>> unemployment rate. And those rates do not include the people who  
>> have simply given up on the prospect of finding work.
>>
>> Regards, George
>>
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> I hear you.  It also relates to Richard's comments about  
> corporations hoarding cash and banks not lending...the reason is  
> that there aren't as many opportunities for investment now.  The  
> reverse, actually.  The question is, what can our government do  
> about it?   The government doesn't create jobs, except in a  
> temporary and largely wasteful sense.  Large CEO salaries and taxes  
> on the rich are irrelevant - the most draconian measures would not  
> put a small dent in the debt.  What is needed, IMHO, is competent  
> fiscal administration, something not present now (IMHO).  I have  
> now escalated into a rant, which needs at least a couple of  
> constructive suggestions.  As a tax adviser, I will probably be  
> excommunicated for this one, but I think the current policies  
> regarding transfer of intangible assets offshore should be  
> revisited (Google, Cisco et al.).  All that is happening there is  
> that the income escaping U.S. tax must be reinvested in another  
> offshore business, else it will become income subject to U.S. tax.   
> So, the U.S. tax break is building industries and infrastructure in  
> other countries.   A U.S. citizen is taxable on worldwide income,  
> now matter where earned.  Why should it be different for a  
> corporate business?  A second suggestion is to stop U.S. military  
> intervention in hopeless causes, e.g., Afghanistan.  OK, a third  
> bonus suggestion would be some way to eliminate federal pork  
> spending, a lost cause I know.
>
> Lastly, I have numerous clients who have taxable income in excess  
> of $1 million.  They all pay taxes at the highest rate.  They are  
> also usually high charitable givers.  Who pays taxes at a lower  
> rate?  Two instances come to mind.  One is the risk taker who is  
> able to take a deduction for intangible drilling costs in the  
> exploration for oil and natural gas, and that is a temporary  
> thing.  The other is someone who has bitten on a tax shelter, with  
> blowback potential that will greatly exceed the temporary tax  
> savings.  EOR!
>
> Ken
>
>
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