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Subject: [Leica] Nocti/0.95 is so 2009. How about a 2 LBS T0.95?
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 06:54:24 -0800
References: <CAF8hL-HzJtqvN4NcSDZm3OWC4muPktx+hqXYVrm4NxFjfOeDoA@mail.gmail.com> <87E9ACCC-43A1-49B9-8DEE-9BEF85802742@gmail.com> <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E93DEAFC4E@WHIZZMAIL02.whizz.org> <CA+=0raDXigWgWoiO3=o_Ca9yytFuC8bZ=4n=Le83aBeBXSkLYQ@mail.gmail.com> <000001cce6e4$8e4b1900$aae14b00$@chiaroscuro.co.nz> <027a01cce6e9$a10ca270$e325e750$@earthlink.net> <AB84C0F1-CF26-4C41-98A7-544CB8D1EA3E@shaw.ca> <028f01cce6ed$1483a070$3d8ae150$@earthlink.net> <CAAsXt4Ob14NwyPU0fDTV9ONe3Un+5m1cNC9SeaCVUOL5ZavmDA@mail.gmail.com> <CA+yJO1AeOsdopR5FssYuRLQqDeSVmwKwoxUtY8hragNuGm6aHw@mail.gmail.com>

With a first grand child on the way I have a lot of motivation to get used
to it!
Shots I've seen from you and Steve were a large factor in getting it. It's
good to have dreams to achieve!
Bob

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:

> It takes a lot of getting used to, but you will love it and never part
> with it!
>
> Tina
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:37 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well I'll open my Kimono here.
> >
> > I just bought a use Nocti; last generation before the 0.95. It's being
> > coded and matched to an M9 in NJ. I paid $6,500. There. I said it. I feel
> > better already!
> >
> > I don't think I would have been willing to fork over $2,300 less for a
> > product with unknown performance and from a manufacturer without a long
> > history of quality. If after a year I hear that it's a better lens than
> the
> > Nocti I bought, fine. I'll kick myself around the block a few times while
> > looking at the images caught over that year.
> > But for quality of lens, I'll talk Leica and put my money where my mouth
> is.
> >
> > And as far as Erwin Putz, he's no god, but he does know lens measurement
> > and has the historical perspective and experience to compare. So I do
> trust
> > his measurements and his opinions drawn from them to a degree. After that
> > it's up to the photographer.
> >
> > The only new lens I bought was the new 21/3.4, in large part based on
> > Erwin's enthusiasm but also based on need (I don't tend to that wide in
> low
> > light), size (an incredibly compact 21) and cost (relative to the 1.4).
> >
> > So all things being pretty equal (this lens vs the Noctilux) I'll give
> > Leica a big benefit of doubt on their lens quality.
> > Just my opinion, since I have nothing else to do until my kit arrives...
> > :'-(
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at earthlink.net
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I stand somewhat corrected......
> >>
> >> What I should have said is:
> >>
> >> > Price is listed as $8350 HKD..... in 4/3 mount.
> >> >
> >> > That is $1076 by today's exchange rate.
> >> >
> >> > US Price is $4288 USD for an M mount.
> >> >
> >> > That is a LOT of HK labor hours for a different mount.......even with
> RF
> >> Coupling.
> >>
> >> Keep in mind the cheapest CV lens has this coupling, and it is the 21/4
> P
> >> Color Skopar M mount at $419 with lens elements......
> >> Hard to justify a $3K up lift in cost because of RF coupling.
> >>
> >> Frank Filippone
> >> Red735i at earthlink.net
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: lug-bounces+red735i=earthlink.net at leica-users.org
> >> [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=earthlink.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> >> Of
> >> John
> >> Collier
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:27 PM
> >> To: Leica Users Group
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Nocti/0.95 is so 2009. How about a 2 LBS T0.95?
> >>
> >> A 4/3 mount wouldn't require coupling to the rangefinder. I would assume
> >> that the M mount version is coupled.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> On 2012-02-08, at 10:13 PM, Frank Filippone wrote:
> >>
> >> > Price is listed as $8350 HKD..... in 4/3 mount.
> >> >
> >> > That is $1076 by today's exchange rate.
> >> >
> >> > US Price is $4288 USD for an M mount.
> >> >
> >> > That is a LOT of HK labor hours for a different mount.......
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Leica Users Group.
> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bob Adler
> > Palo Alto, CA
> > http://www.rgaphoto.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Tina Manley, ASMP
> www.tinamanley.com
>
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>



-- 
Bob Adler
Palo Alto, CA
http://www.rgaphoto.com


In reply to: Message from richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man) ([Leica] Nocti/0.95 is so 2009. How about a 2 LBS T0.95?)
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Message from john at chiaroscuro.co.nz (John McMaster) ([Leica] Nocti/0.95 is so 2009. How about a 2 LBS T0.95?)
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Message from jbcollier at shaw.ca (John Collier) ([Leica] Nocti/0.95 is so 2009. How about a 2 LBS T0.95?)
Message from red735i at earthlink.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] Nocti/0.95 is so 2009. How about a 2 LBS T0.95?)
Message from rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler) ([Leica] Nocti/0.95 is so 2009. How about a 2 LBS T0.95?)
Message from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] Nocti/0.95 is so 2009. How about a 2 LBS T0.95?)