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Subject: [Leica] Ansel Adams Wilderness
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey at mchsi.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:56:03 -0500 (CDT)

There is always the GigaPan robotic camera mount system which works with any 
35 digital/mf camera for panoramics and extreme detail photos.

Cheers,
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 5:41:16 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Leica] Ansel Adams Wilderness

One reason why this particular rumor seems particularly rumor-like is the
precedent for panoramic digital sensors.
There is none.
The only digital format sensors so for make in the digital image making
realm is for x ray cameras.
The way panoramic digital photography is done is now with merges.
So "Hasselblad" would have to in effect invent a whole new technology from
scratch to come with this particular pipe dream toy.
Not likely to happen.
They just don't have any reason to shell out many millions in R&D for this
unknown niche market.
There may be reasons why its expensive to make a long skinny digital sensor.

There are many cameras in use now and coming out  you can hold down the
button and sweep. And its almost like they're not requiring you to do
anything afterward. Its not like you have to shell out money for Photoshop
or anything. Even cheap third party stitch programs. Its all seamless behind
your back. 
You end up with a panoramic image.
A panoramic digital sensor has not presented itself as something which needs
to exist in today's digital photography market.

It's all about Merge.


Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 16:43:51 -0500
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Ansel Adams Wilderness
> 
> I still have my Xpan, and love it. The lenses are superb, and the camera is
> well made, except for the covering. I have always felt most at home with 
> it,
> even ahead of the OM's. One of the rumor (rumour) sites thinks that part of
> Hasselblad's big photokina announcement is a digital Xpan. I await
> anxiously.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Rabiner
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 4:26 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Ansel Adams Wilderness
> 
> It does seem audacious or even impudent for a respected worker to be out in
> Ansel Adams territory with a 35mm camera. I'm seeing this with this post of
> an not new thread in kind of in a new light.  Ansel A. would climb these
> mountains before modern mountain climbing methods and been invented yet 
> with
> an 8x10 camera on his back and a half dozen 8x10 glass plates in his early
> 20's. And with his wife, Virginia Best Adams right behind him all the way 
> up
> and all the way down the mountain. Amazing they survived even without the
> gear. And the results they got were clearly worth with risk and adventure.
> The images one gets contact printing or enlarging 8x10 negs or
> transparencies is very hard to beat and has a way of standing alone in a
> room filled with prints of smaller formats.
> 
> But what Ansel didn't have and we have now is the ability to merge
> individual exposures together and with each one we've in effect increased
> our format size by that much.
> I see in the B&H catalog cameras which seem to be designed with stitching 
> in
> mind. Wide angle digital cameras.
> 
> So we have a decisive new paradigm shift now in how we might obtain images
> with an astounding amount of breath taking information .
> The word "coverage" can be used in a whole new way in photography.
> Very large format results possible with very small formats.
> We could go out with even smaller cropped digital sensors and work
> spontaneously and then with carful stitching made large format results. And
> I think here on the lug we've seen some from pocket point and shots with
> sensors the size of your baby fingernail.
> 
> I saw it in some ways it all starting with Hasselblad marketing its 35mm 
> pan
> camera the Xpan as a "medium format camera" which shoots 35mm film.
> Though really it had existed before with the bigger pieces of the brownie
> film pie 6x12 and 6x17 formats. Roll film. But with sheet film acreage.
> 
> These merges by Paul and some other Lug members are truly head revolving a
> full 361 degrees.
> ..."inspiring" is an understatement!!!
> Click-click-click-click-click!
> 
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photography
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> 
> 
>> From: Lottermoser George <imagist3 at mac.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 09:49:15 -0500
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Ansel Adams Wilderness
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Paul Roark wrote:
>> 
>>> In the first week of August I backpacked into the Ansel Adams
>>> Wilderness with Roy Harrington.  I am putting the images I work on at
>>> http://www.paulroark.com/Ansel-Adams-Wilderness.html
>>> 
>>> To reduce the weight as much as possible, the M9 and 35mm f/2.8 Zeiss
>>> Biogon were the extent of the camera equipment.  No tripod -- which
>>> makes the shot of flowing water all the more interesting to think
>>> about.
>>> 
>>> All images were combinations of multiple frames.  Sun over Lake Ediza
>>> was 15 frames -- two rows of 7 plus one for the sun.
>> 
>> so very fine
>> 
>> Regards,
>> George Lottermoser
>> george at imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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