Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/02

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Subject: [Leica] Manipulation Disqualification
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 11:27:53 +0530
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Marty,
I agree with you there, but all viewers who comment bring in something
useful to the table, including competition judges. It is up to us to take
it in the right spirit to improve our craft.
Cheers
Jayanand



On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> 
wrote:

> Hi Jayanand,
>
> > What method of getting your work viewed, in your opinion, does not lend
> > itself to be open to biases? I think it is impossible to eliminate bias
> in
> > the eyes of the viewer (a judge, after all, is just another viewer,
> albeit
> > with some power in the context of a competition).
>
> Perhaps I worded that poorly.  There is no avoidance of bias.  But in
> competitions there is exercising of power and often this leads to
> self-importance and glorified egoism.  If you show your photos in
> other fora, the viewers can decide if they like them or not, without
> the additional influences of the viewers being given growing
> self-important because their choice makes the image more valuable.
>
> > In this case, nobody seems to have read the rules, and apparently the
> > judges did not check out the primary document (RAW file/negative) for
> > transgressions either, which seems to be a huge goof up!
>
> That really is a goof up.  It doesn't make any difference to my
> assessment of competitions, but it's also irrelevant to it.
>
> Marty
>
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