Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/28
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I agree with Doug. I was conscious of bokeh years before I knew there was a word for it. I was conscious of microcontrast decades before hearing the term. I'm a bit bemused by the reaction to this topic: it's not important, it doesn't exist, nobody cared, working professionals -- unlike you amateurs who can't know as much as we do -- don't concern themselves with such trivial matters, it was impossible for anybody to notice it because "bokeh" hadn't entered our language, it does exist, but I get to be the one who says when and under what conditions, I don't care about it so you shouldn't either? My goodness. Who can look at Doug Herr's photographs and question ANYthing he has to say about image quality? I've got an idea. Let's all get together and decide which focal length and f-stop is the "right" normal lens. We can divide into camps and impune the choices of others. And let's keep at it until it's settled. As a base I suggest that "real" photographers use the Henri default setting: manually bulk-loaded Tri-X, 50mm lens on Leica body, no light meter, maybe a trench coat. If you're doing it any differently, you're just wrong. Or we could appreciate and learn from each others' differences. I'm leaning toward the latter. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Doug Herr" <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Subject: [Leica] Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9 Date: Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:59 pm Robert Meier > >Of course it exists. That isn't the question. > Recognizing the color green or recognizing the differences in bokeh is then a matter of exposure, education, and training. Before I knew what made lens' drawing styles different, I could see that there was a difference. What I couldn't do was verbalize the difference I saw because I didn't have the vocabulary or training to describe the difference. Doug Herr Birdman of Sacramento http://www.wildlightphoto.com > >On Nov 28, 2012, at 9:46 PM, Doug Herr <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> >wrote: > >> Robert Meier wrote: >> >>>>> >> Linguists have found that different language groups divide the visible >> spectrum up in different ways and have names for different colors within >> the continuum of the spectrum, so that, for example, some cultures have >> only two words for the range from yellow through green to blue, omitting >> our word green. When asked what they call what we see as green, they >> answer either yellow or blue, depending on where the shade of green >> falls. They don't "see" green, only yellow and blue. So does green >> exist for them? No, it doesn't: what they see is either yellow or blue. >> <<< >> >> The portion of the electromagnetic spectrum we know as 'green' exists >> whether we have a word for it or not. >> >> Doug Herr >> Sacramento >> http://www.wildlightphoto.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information Doug Herr Sacramento http://www.wildlightphoto.com _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information