Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/30

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Subject: [Leica] Cameras Real Pros Use
From: douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 02:46:05 +0100
References: <20121130175937.JYBC10627.eastrmfepo101.cox.net@eastrmimpo209> <01e901cdcf33$98b76550$ca262ff0$@verizon.net> <50B9532C.4030602@gmx.de> <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E99CB4101A@WHIZZMAIL02.whizz.org>

John,

Who's talking about starting from scratch?

I'm sitting here at my desk next to a cabinet full of 
M-film cameras from M2 to M6 and around a score of M 
lenses I could well use on a FF-digital camera. Even 
though I could easily afford the new M or the new M-E, 
I have no intention of blowing so much cash on an 
overpriced camera with a number of features I don't 
even want.  Even the basic M-E has a Leica charisma 
markup of around 30 to 40% factored into the price.

The last new Leica M I bought was the first model M6 
Titanium that came out at the same time I had a 
moderate windfall, and even the paint flaked out of the 
name engraving within the first week of buying it - it 
was sent in to Leica and returned with a totally new 
top deck and a repair sheet that said they replaced the 
shutter brake and readjusted all manner of other things 
- not exactly what I would expect from a brand new camera.

Bring out an alternative that offers the reliability 
that used to be promised and fulfilled by Leica - and 
seemed to disappear after the M4 - and I'll buy it like 
a shot.

Cheers
Douglas



On 01.12.2012 01:49, John McMaster wrote:
> If, starting from scratch, you cannot afford a full frame digital Leica 
> body then I doubt you will be able to afford many Leica lenses from the 
> past quarter century.....
>
> john
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> If Leica glass is the clincher,  it also shows that the first other brand 
>> to turn up
>> with a full-frame digital camera (maybe even exclusively) for M-mount 
>> Leica
>> lenses (like the Voigtl?nder Bessa and Zeiss Ikon cameras for film) is 
>> going to
>> make a killing if they have prices much lower than what Leica demands and
>> acceptable build quality.
>>
>> Even at "M-system entry level", Leica prices most potential users out of 
>> the
>> market from the word go.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Douglas
>>
>> On 30.11.2012 20:47, Frank Filippone wrote:
>>> Forget all the stories about reliability, as we still use the Digi-M
>>> because it uses Leica Glass.  And, as amateurs, we can tolerate the
>>> reliability problems....
>>>
>>> It only shows that you need a backup camera.  If you use N or C
>>> cameras, a backup, even a lower model or older model,  can be bought
>>> in most countries, and even if you do pay more than you want or buy a
>>> film camera, it will be cheap, relative to what it would cost in an
>>> emergency to buy a new M9 in some Podunk location, if possible at all.
>>> And therein the problem for us Leica fans.. we MUST bring a backup
>>> camera with us....  Mine is an M6TTL.  I carry 4-6 rolls of film and
>>> figure I can always buy some form of C41 film or even B+W no matter
>> where in the world I am.
>>> The backup stays in my luggage for the trip.  Not in the camera bag.
>>>
>>> Frank Filippone
>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>>
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