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Subject: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
From: leica_r8 at hotmail.com (Aram Langhans)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 09:55:32 -0800
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That's what I have gathered.  But as you say, expensive, and indeed heavy. 
One of my prime considerations for lens choice is weight, as I hike all over 
with them.  They could be with me for 10 hours in a day.  I thought the 
35/70 was heavy at one time, but nothing compared to my current Nikon 
24-120/4 I bought at the last minute to substitute for the 35/70 when I 
dropped it and broke it a few weeks before a two month trip, so I needed 
something.  the 24/120 was lighter and smaller than the 24-70/2.8

Aram


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From: <grduprey at mchsi.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 10:54 PM
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E

> Aram,
>
> I will try to do it this weekend.  However, I can tell you the 24/70 f2.8 
> is a real gem of a lens.  Fast focussing, quiet and sharp.  Also 
> expensive.
>
> Cheers,
> Gene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8 at hotmail.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:01:21 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
>
> Would love to see the 35/70 R vs the 24/70 N.  I am considering the D600,
> but will have to replace my Nikon DX 10-24 with something.  In looking at
> what Nikon has to offer for FF in that range, I cringe at every review 
> when
> they talk about the massive amount of distortion, or the edge performance.
> That seems to be universal for zooms with Nikon and Canon and xxxx.  But I
> have never noticed much with the 35/70 R.  But have never done any 
> objective
> tests.  Hope you have the time to make this comparison.
>
> Aram
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: grduprey at mchsi.com
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 2:50 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
>
> Frank,
>
> No I have not seen any comparisons of the DMR and D800E.  Can't comment on
> the D800, but I do have a D4, and just off the top, the DMR does a fair 
> job
> against the D4 for an 8? year old design.  Although I have not made a side
> by side comparison of images.  The D4 kills the DMR when it comes to high
> ISO, and kills just about anything else in that category.  The D4 is very
> waterproof, from recent experience, where the DMR may not be as good, as I
> keep it out of the rain when I am not shooting, but it has not had any
> glitches when it did get wet, but I worry about the motor to camera
> interface not being too water tight.  They are both heavy, pretty close
> actually, the DMR on the R8 is a bit shorter than the D4.  Turn on is much
> slower with the DMR, and so is write speed.  The buffer on the DMR is very
> small, where the D4 buffer is vast and you can shoot rapidly with no 
> problem
> of the camera slowing down (great for bird in flight photos), although i
> would bet Doug would out do it with the DMR and a single click ;).  The
> R8DMR is a bit quieter, noise wise, but the D4 beats the D800 or D700 by
> light years in this area.  I prefer the simplicity of the DMR controls 
> over
> those of the D4, although the D4 controls are well laid out, when compared
> to earlier Nikon DSLRs, and definitely better than Canon DSLRs.  You can 
> get
> D4 batteries, where the DMR batteries are rarer than Hen's Teeth, and must
> be rebuilt or use an external source if you cannot get them rebuilt.  The
> charge also lasts way longer than the DMR's batteries, although they are 
> not
> cheap by any measure.  The auto focus on the D4 is simply AMAZING! It 
> locks
> on very fast and no hunting at all, even in low light, MF with the D4 and
> older MF Nikkors is very good also, as it has a bright view finder (but 
> not
> as quite as bright as the R8 I think).  MF on the DMR is getting a bit 
> slow
> with my 64 year old eyes, but still works good in most light levels. Build
> for both is excellent, but would give the D4 a bit of a nod here, due to 
> the
> previously mentioned motor to camera body interface of the DMR.  I will go
> out this weekend and do a side by side image test of the two, probably 
> with
> the 180/2.8 MF Nikkor, and the 180/3.4 R APO lenses (Similar vintage
> lenses), don't have any other similar lenses to compare.  But could do a
> comparison of my 35~70R zoom and my 24~70 AF-S Nikkor zoom.  Any thing I
> have not covered, that you would like to know?
>
> CHEERS,
> Gene
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 1:22:20 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
>
> Has anyone seen a comparison of the DMR and the Nikon D800E?  Using Leica
> glass, of course.
>
>
>
> Frank Filippone
>
> Red735i at verizon.net
>
>
>
>
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