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Subject: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey at mchsi.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 16:02:34 -0600 (CST)

Thanks Len.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Leonard Taupier" <len-1 at comcast.net>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2012 10:39:36 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E

Gene,

I don't think the 180mm comparison will be too useful. I've compared  
those two lenses on the same body and the Leica is a much higher  
resolution lens. That's looking at both at f4. But the zoom  
comparison should be interesting and probably a good test. I compared  
the Leica-R 35-70mm against the Nikon's 24-70mm predecessor, the  
28-70mm f2.8 and found the Leica lens had slightly higher contrast.   
The newer 24-70mm is a better lens though. For both tests I used the  
Oly E-M5 which has a higher resolution sensor than either the DMR or  
D800 but being a M4/3 sensor my test was only on center resolution.

Len


On Nov 30, 2012, at 5:50 PM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote:

> Frank,
>
> No I have not seen any comparisons of the DMR and D800E.  Can't  
> comment on the D800, but I do have a D4, and just off the top, the  
> DMR does a fair job against the D4 for an 8? year old design.   
> Although I have not made a side by side comparison of images.  The  
> D4 kills the DMR when it comes to high ISO, and kills just about  
> anything else in that category.  The D4 is very waterproof, from  
> recent experience, where the DMR may not be as good, as I keep it  
> out of the rain when I am not shooting, but it has not had any  
> glitches when it did get wet, but I worry about the motor to camera  
> interface not being too water tight.  They are both heavy, pretty  
> close actually, the DMR on the R8 is a bit shorter than the D4.   
> Turn on is much slower with the DMR, and so is write speed.  The  
> buffer on the DMR is very small, where the D4 buffer is vast and  
> you can shoot rapidly with no problem of the camera slowing down  
> (great for bird in flight photos), although i would bet Doug would  
> out do it
>   with the DMR and a single click ;).  The R8DMR is a bit quieter,  
> noise wise, but the D4 beats the D800 or D700 by light years in  
> this area.  I prefer the simplicity of the DMR controls over those  
> of the D4, although the D4 controls are well laid out, when  
> compared to earlier Nikon DSLRs, and definitely better than Canon  
> DSLRs.  You can get D4 batteries, where the DMR batteries are rarer  
> than Hen's Teeth, and must be rebuilt or use an external source if  
> you cannot get them rebuilt.  The charge also lasts way longer than  
> the DMR's batteries, although they are not cheap by any measure.   
> The auto focus on the D4 is simply AMAZING! It locks on very fast  
> and no hunting at all, even in low light, MF with the D4 and older  
> MF Nikkors is very good also, as it has a bright view finder (but  
> not as quite as bright as the R8 I think).  MF on the DMR is  
> getting a bit slow with my 64 year old eyes, but still works good  
> in most light levels. Build for both is excellent, but would give  
> the D
>  4 a bit of a nod here, due to the previously mentioned motor to  
> camera body interface of the DMR.  I will go out this weekend and  
> do a side by side image test of the two, probably with the 180/2.8  
> MF Nikkor, and the 180/3.4 R APO lenses (Similar vintage lenses),  
> don't have any other similar lenses to compare.  But could do a  
> comparison of my 35~70R zoom and my 24~70 AF-S Nikkor zoom.  Any  
> thing I have not covered, that you would like to know?
>
> CHEERS,
> Gene
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 1:22:20 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada  
> Central
> Subject: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
>
> Has anyone seen a comparison of the DMR and the Nikon D800E?  Using  
> Leica
> glass, of course.
>
>
>
> Frank Filippone
>
> Red735i at verizon.net
>
>
>
>
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