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Subject: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
From: robertmeier at usjet.net (Robert Meier)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 21:22:23 -0600 (CST)
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That's a different ball game.  The 35-70/4 is one of the best zooms, even 
one of the best lenses ever made.   For some reason, the f3.5 version is 
just average.


On Dec 1, 2012, at 4:07 PM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote:

> No it is the 3.5 version.
> 
> Gene
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Meier" <robertmeier at usjet.net>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2012 11:59:00 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
> 
> Is the Leica R 35-70mm lens you are talking about the f4 model?
> 
> Robert
> 
> On Dec 1, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Leonard Taupier <len-1 at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Gene,
>> 
>> I don't think the 180mm comparison will be too useful. I've compared 
>> those two lenses on the same body and the Leica is a much higher 
>> resolution lens. That's looking at both at f4. But the zoom comparison 
>> should be interesting and probably a good test. I compared the Leica-R 
>> 35-70mm against the Nikon's 24-70mm predecessor, the 28-70mm f2.8 and 
>> found the Leica lens had slightly higher contrast.  The newer 24-70mm is 
>> a better lens though. For both tests I used the Oly E-M5 which has a 
>> higher resolution sensor than either the DMR or D800 but being a M4/3 
>> sensor my test was only on center resolution.
>> 
>> Len
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 30, 2012, at 5:50 PM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Frank,
>>> 
>>> No I have not seen any comparisons of the DMR and D800E.  Can't comment 
>>> on the D800, but I do have a D4, and just off the top, the DMR does a 
>>> fair job against the D4 for an 8? year old design.  Although I have not 
>>> made a side by side comparison of images.  The D4 kills the DMR when it 
>>> comes to high ISO, and kills just about anything else in that category.  
>>> The D4 is very waterproof, from recent experience, where the DMR may not 
>>> be as good, as I keep it out of the rain when I am not shooting, but it 
>>> has not had any glitches when it did get wet, but I worry about the 
>>> motor to camera interface not being too water tight.  They are both 
>>> heavy, pretty close actually, the DMR on the R8 is a bit shorter than 
>>> the D4.  Turn on is much slower with the DMR, and so is write speed.  
>>> The buffer on the DMR is very small, where the D4 buffer is vast and you 
>>> can shoot rapidly with no problem of the camera slowing down (great for 
>>> bird in flight photos), although i would bet Doug would out do
> 
>  it
>>> with the DMR and a single click ;).  The R8DMR is a bit quieter, noise 
>>> wise, but the D4 beats the D800 or D700 by light years in this area.  I 
>>> prefer the simplicity of the DMR controls over those of the D4, although 
>>> the D4 controls are well laid out, when compared to earlier Nikon DSLRs, 
>>> and definitely better than Canon DSLRs.  You can get D4 batteries, where 
>>> the DMR batteries are rarer than Hen's Teeth, and must be rebuilt or use 
>>> an external source if you cannot get them rebuilt.  The charge also 
>>> lasts way longer than the DMR's batteries, although they are not cheap 
>>> by any measure.  The auto focus on the D4 is simply AMAZING! It locks on 
>>> very fast and no hunting at all, even in low light, MF with the D4 and 
>>> older MF Nikkors is very good also, as it has a bright view finder (but 
>>> not as quite as bright as the R8 I think).  MF on the DMR is getting a 
>>> bit slow with my 64 year old eyes, but still works good in most light 
>>> levels. Build for both is excellent, but would give the
> 
>  D
>>> 4 a bit of a nod here, due to the previously mentioned motor to camera 
>>> body interface of the DMR.  I will go out this weekend and do a side by 
>>> side image test of the two, probably with the 180/2.8 MF Nikkor, and the 
>>> 180/3.4 R APO lenses (Similar vintage lenses), don't have any other 
>>> similar lenses to compare.  But could do a comparison of my 35~70R zoom 
>>> and my 24~70 AF-S Nikkor zoom.  Any thing I have not covered, that you 
>>> would like to know?
>>> 
>>> CHEERS,
>>> Gene
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net>
>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 1:22:20 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
>>> Subject: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
>>> 
>>> Has anyone seen a comparison of the DMR and the Nikon D800E?  Using Leica
>>> glass, of course.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Frank Filippone
>>> 
>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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