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Subject: [Leica] (Now) Nikon 24-120
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 04:00:56 -0500

Welcome to the LUG John Owlett I'm kind of with you on the use two lens not
one idiot lens working scenario.
For some reason most of the top people spurn normal zooms altogether
conservative  35 - 70mm a bit hard to find now to the idiot ones from ultra
wide to 300 or whatever.

Its the wide to ultra wide zooms which seem to have captured  the top
photographers practical imagination. The one which almost never comes off
the camera.
And the traditional tele zoom -  some variation of the  long time 80-200.
I read and see that they use wide and tele zooms and leave their normal
zooms at home if they even own one.

Me I never met normal zoom I didn't like. Mainly the cheap light ones which
are miraculously against all common sense; sharp. I don't own a bulky fast
or idiot version yet....
Zooming a great thing to do.
I have a 60 macro on my camera right now and its too cold to take it off.
As much as I love to be able to zoom when I used a fixed lens I forget all
about it.


On 1/27/13 6:36 PM, "John Owlett" <owl at postmaster.co.uk> wrote:

> May I use this thread, on which I do have a little knowledge, to emerge 
> from
> lurking and introduce myself?

I am a dinosaur amateur photographer, having
> neither digital camera nor cellphone.  First love was a Rolleiflex TLR; 
> more
> recently manual-focus Nikon has been the main medium.

But the World turns,
> and digital cannot be avoided forever.  Which brings me here.

Mindful of the
> 40 lp/mm limit on amateur photography (with a prime lens, a lightweight
> tripod, and 160 ASA colour print film) only a full-frame sensor will do.  
> And
> full-frame DSLRs are heavy: I want something as light as the 25 oz of my 
> F3/T;
> but from Nikon, even the D800 weighs 35 oz with battery and memory
> card.

Hence the attraction of a 21 oz digital Leica M rangefinder.

Needless
> to say, if anyone has any information or opinion they think will be useful,
> I?d be most grateful.

On Wednesday 23 January 2013, at 01:18 EST, Mark
> Rabiner wrote:

> To me it really would not make sense for a company I have to
> say I certainly
> respect, Nikon to have their step up lens (from a basic kit
> lens) be a
> looser. If they can make a bottom of the line lens be a solid
> performer then
> why would the totally blow it for people who want to spend
> some real extra
> money and get some glass with more functionality.?

I?m not
> sure that the 24-120 really is a step up lens.  Granted, you can use it as
> one, but I see it as being a specialist lens for people who want to use 
> just
> one lens from wide-angle to portrait length.  (For which it is a far better
> choice than the 28-300.)

If someone wants to step up from a 24-85 kit lens, I
> would hope they would consider using two zooms: adding the new 70-200 f/4 
> to a
> 24-85 kit lens would be a huge improvement.

If they decide they want a better
> standard zoom, then the 24-70 f/2.8 is far better than a 24-85 kit lens, 
> and
> only 50% more expensive than the 24-120.

If 50% more is too much, then using
> prime lenses would also be far better than a 24-85 kit lens; a set of three
> f/1.8s -- 35m, 50mm, and 85mm -- would cost significantly less than a
> 24-120.

If, after all that, they decide that their needs are best met by a
> 24-120, then fair enough.  It?s a specialist lens aimed at specialists like
> them.

Mark also wrote:

> If you cant shoot Leica than Nikon is not such a
> terrible way to fly.

Quite so.  Though I am considering the converse: if you
> cannot lift a Nikon DSLR system, then Leica might be the best way to
> fly.

Later,

Dr Owl

----------------------------
John Owlett, Southampton,
> UK

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