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Subject: [Leica] simple intellectual property question
From: kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 18:13:36 -0600
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I started to post a link to a photo when I could never figure out how to get
a photo uploaded to Facebook without it looking really bad because of
compression artifacts (there must be a way - Mark's photos always look
great).  Then I read the license terms.  It brought to mind the scene in
"Southpark" where Kyle checks the "accept" box on the license agreement
without reading it, though I imagine LUG members would never view such a
thing.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Ric
Carter
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 5:46 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] simple intellectual property question

well, facebook would be in a strange position posting your photos if you
don't give them permission to do so.

interpretation  details are of course the rub

ric


On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:43 PM, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:

> I think another problem is that Facebook can apparently change the 
> terms at any time.
> 
> Ken
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
> Tina Manley
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 5:08 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] simple intellectual property question
> 
> My God!  Here are the terms which I swear have changed since the last 
> time I checked them:
> 
> "For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like 
> photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give us the following 
> permission, subject to your privacy <http://www.facebook.com/privacy/> 
> and application settings <http://www.facebook.com/editapps.php>: you 
> grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, 
> worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in 
> connection with Facebook (IP License). This IP License ends when you 
> delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been 
> shared with others, and they have not deleted it."
> 
> I am immediately deleting all of my photos on Facebook and will not 
> post any more.
> 
> Tina
> 
> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> I think this is clear, but I would appreciate any corrections.  The 
>> Facebook terms of use state that for any IP content that I post, I 
>> retain ownership but grant a royalty-free sublicense.  From the 
>> definition of "content", it appears that if I post a link to one of 
>> my photos on Facebook, I have granted the sublicense for that image, 
>> the same as if I had uploaded the image to Facebook.  Correct?  
>> Thanks for any help.
>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
> --
> Tina Manley, ASMP
> www.tinamanley.com
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