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Subject: [Leica] Color Blindness in America Re: Winogrand exhibit
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 12:37:45 -0700

BTW, for examples of color blindness, look no further than Hollywood
movies. USA is 10% Asian-Americans, ~20% Latino and climbing, and almost
20% African Americans also - but you cannot tell that from the movies. Are
they all racists. No, I wouldn't say that.




On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Richard Man <richard at 
richardmanphoto.com>wrote:

> As  I said before, I am wondering if there is a case of color blindness,
> and this is only in the context of someone who photographs at least 2-5
> rolls everyday in NY / LA on average.
>
> I might very well be wrong in the observation, but isn't it interesting
> that people jumped onto the "I am accusing a great man for being racist" or
> that "other artists did not paint Asians" either.
>
> No one has actually said, gee, no, Winogrand does not have a case of color
> blindness, you are just making a mountain out of molehill. I'd accept that,
> but no, we have Mr. Rabiner accusing me, and Douglas and you jumping on the
> bandwagon....
> On May 9, 2013 6:15 AM, "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
>
>> Richard, you are being a bit disingenuous here. If you were only "making
>> an observation", then might I ask why you felt that this particular
>> observation was relevant? I have no idea if Winogrand was a racist or not,
>> but clearly your "observation" is only relevant in that context. So don't
>> pretend that there was no deeper meaning behind your "observation".
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>>
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>>
>> YNWA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 9, 2013, at 6:29 AM, Richard Man wrote:
>>
>> > Mark, did you read everything I write? I made an observation. Viewers of
>> > his exhibit can judge for themselves about my observation, which once
>> again
>> > is "few photos in his exhibit have people of colors, and exactly one
>> Asian
>> > that we can find." I am not accusing him of anything. Anyone can
>> confirm or
>> > refute my observation. The exhibit is still open and you can purchase
>> the
>> > book for $50.
>> >
>> > May be it;s the curator and has billions of photos of African American
>> in
>> > his vast quantity of negatives, but this exhibit does not show it.
>> >
>> > You are making accusation, I am not. Please have some restrain that you
>> > speak of.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Have you seen his Rolodex?
>> >> Because it really appears you are accusing Garry Winogrand of racism.
>> >> And you don't know much about him.
>> >> The idea that he'd have any problem with having people of color in his
>> >> frame
>> >> is patently absurd.
>> >> When one makes slights against a someone's personal integrity some
>> >> restraint
>> >> in in order. Even if that person is not a towering figure of a
>> particular
>> >> type. In this case a photographer who dedicated his life to capture the
>> >> world around him and who did it with some success.
>> >> Is this a controversy?
>> >> Has anyone in the history of the world ever said anything about the
>> color
>> >> of
>> >> the people the great Garry Winogrand photographed? OF COURSE NOT.
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
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