Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/05/29
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]We had a dozen Russians this year who joined European law courses on a total of 120 Master's degree students. Their French was better than many of the natives'. And their English near native level ... None of them were sporting Leicas though :-) I also have Chinese students in economics: honestly and from a usefulness perspective, I'd agree with you Jayanand that our economists may not be teaching them anything worthy, language excepted ... perhaps they can conquer our markets faster when they know how we think? OTT For about 15 years I have taught PhD students in Science who do have to speak and write in English, be it in the lab with foreign fellow students and tutors alike or for papers and conferences. Breaking the law (called loi Toubon) over these years was a delight. Now with the reform I'm afraid the fun will be gone ;-) Amiti?s Philippe Le 29 mai 13 ? 11:29, Jayanand Govindaraj a ?crit : > I understand that, and this is the right time to do it, because > Cameron's new student visa rules has succeeded brilliantly in > driving away students from our part of the world! I believe > applications to British Universities from India are very > significantly down. Now we can wait for those temples of learning to > slowly run out of money, because who else, but the Asians, pay those > full, non subsidized fees? > Cheers > Jayanand > > Sent from my iPad > > On 29-May-2013, at 2:17 PM, "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at frozenlight.eu> > wrote: > >> Jayanand, this is not aimed at French students, but at foreigners. >> French >> universities look enviously across the Channel and the large number >> of >> students from, not least, your country, that study there. They >> would of >> course like to attract their share too, but language is a barrier, >> since >> let's face it, not many people in India or other big potential >> sources of >> students (including other EU countries) speak French. German >> universities >> have long ago faced up to this and many offer entire courses in >> English. >> So now the French universities want to follow suit. >> >> A somewhat related tidbit: increasingly, academic articles in my >> discipline (economics) are published in English, even in German or >> Italian >> or French (!) journals. Paradoxically, this has lessened the >> dominance of >> UK and US economists in recent years, because now academics from >> other >> countries, who were obscure 30 years ago when they published papers >> only >> in their local languages, now are accessible to a world-wide >> audience of >> their peers. It's like Latin in the Middle Ages, except more >> democratic. >> >> Cheers, >> Nathan >> >> >> Op Wo, 29 mei, 2013 09:35, schreef Jayanand Govindaraj: >>> Not surprising - if there are no jobs in France, you would need a >>> minimum >>> of English to go anywhere else, would you not? >>> Cheers >>> Jayanand >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 29-May-2013, at 12:51 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Actually, the "Made in..." has always been in English, at least >>>> as far >>>> back as I remember--even in 1960s Poland, products were labelled >>>> "Made >>>> in Poland", not "Wyprodukowane w Polsce". The same goes for >>>> books--I >>>> just took down from my shelf a random book in Danish, but on the >>>> inner >>>> cover where the copyright notice and ISBN is, it says "Printed in >>>> Denmark 1984". >>>> >>>> But Steve, it gets much worse. During my last visit to Paris, in >>>> November, I was accosted in English by a French bartender!!! And >>>> now >>>> French universities will be allowed to offer courses taught in >>>> English >>>> so as to attract foreign students. This will probably spur more >>>> controversy than the recently passed gay marriage law. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Nathan >>>> >>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>> Alicante, Spain >>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ >>>> >>>> YNWA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2013, at 8:43 AM, philippe.amard wrote: >>>> >>>>> It's the Brits who triggered the whole ordeal ;-) >>>>> >>>>> http://www.made-in-germany.biz/en/about-us/made-in-germany.html >>>>> >>>>> Now, it might also only mean that the imported parts are assembled >>>>> there by why not, a foreign workforce under Austrian supervision >>>>> drawing on worldwide funds ... >>>>> >>>>> Amiti?s >>>>> Philippe >>>>> >>>>> Le 29 mai 13 ? 08:01, Steve Barbour a ?crit : >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 28, 2013, at 10:46 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu >>>>>> > >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Steve, "Made in Germany" is an element of the brand here, and >>>>>>> it is >>>>>>> not that surprising to see it used like this in a French text. >>>>>>> Besides, our barbaric tongue is making inroads in France, quel >>>>>>> horreur! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> oy.... >>>>>> >>>>>> really, I am used to seeing something like Fait en >>>>>> Allemagne >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> shocked that the French would allow bastardization of their >>>>>> language >>>>>> like this.... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Nathan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>>>>> Alicante, Spain >>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> YNWA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 29, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Steve Barbour wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 28, 2013, at 10:20 PM, "Frank Filippone" >>>>>>>> <red735i at verizon.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No saying if this is another fake or something real.... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Wait another few days, then you will not have to guess..... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But I do agree with Mark in that this is a brilliant piece of >>>>>>>>> marketing for >>>>>>>>> a formerly very stuffy company.... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Frank Filippone >>>>>>>>> Red735i at verizon.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The specs and photo of the Leica Mini M has been leaked on >>>>>>>>> the web >>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>> leicarumors.com in French of course. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> very peculair, in the middle of all the French is the >>>>>>>> line.... Made >>>>>>>> in Germany. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - John Lee >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>> information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>> information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>> information >>>>> >>>>> One sees clearly only with the heart. What is essential is >>>>> invisible to >>>>> the eye. Antoine de Saint Exup?ry in Le Petit Prince. >>>>> NO ARCHIVE >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> -- >> Nathan Wajsman >> photo at frozenlight.eu >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information One sees clearly only with the heart. What is essential is invisible to the eye. 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