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Subject: [Leica] Fuji XE-1
From: kingfisher at halcyon.com (Larry Bullis)
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 09:31:43 -0700
References: <mailman.1555.1370415058.1182.lug@leica-users.org>

Jim Alinder has a display about that image in his gallery in Gualala CA 
including a copy of the original negative, a straight print from it, and 
a version which looks like the one we know. The accompanying text says 
that some un-named people think it's the greatest photograph ever made. 
Also, that the original negative is a record of what was there, and the 
final version is how Ansel felt about it.

I used to think that photograph was really something, but looking at it 
there a year ago, third time I've seen it, pretty much spoiled it for me 
for good. The top and the bottom really don't look like they have a lot 
to do with each other. Every time I see a reproduction of it, it just 
looks wrong wrong wrong.

That doesn't necessarily ruin the rest of St. Ansel's work for me, but 
I've decided that I really don't much care for that image any more. How 
we change.



On 6/4/13 11:50 PM, lug-request at leica-users.org wrote:
> Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 02:50:55 -0400
> From: Mark Rabiner<mark at rabinergroup.com>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji XE-1
> To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org>
> Message-ID:<CDD4580F.AD02%mark at rabinergroup.com>
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> Its also that he was dying to never have to print that damn neg again.
> By the way the Number 4 through 5 papers and papers with filters in the 
> late
> 80's certainly packed enough contrast to print a neg which was only a thin
> stain on the emulsion.  It was hard to find a neg so thing you could not
> make a pretty nice print from it.
> But he wouldn't have known that.
>
> The one time I chromium intensived a neg I got severe reticulation.
> And was the only time I ever got reticulation.
> I don't know how many years off my life using chromium intensifier once 
> took
> off. But it was a few.
>
>
> On 6/4/13 8:25 PM, "Ken Carney"<kcarney1 at cox.net>  wrote:
>
>> >I'll bet the pucker factor was high when AA dipped the bottom part of the
>> >Moonrise neg into chromium intensifier to bring out the crosses.  I've 
>> >seen
>> >numerous versions of Moonrise, including the one with two moons, 
>> >courtesy of
>> >his assistants.
>> >
>> >Ken
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From:lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org
>> >[mailto:lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
>> >Robert G
>> >Adler
>> >Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 7:05 PM
>> >To: Leica Users Group
>> >Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji XE-1
>> >
>> >It's like keeping your Costco prints and throwing out your negatives!
>> >Every time you save a jpg you lose information. Also software improves 
>> >but
>> >without your raw file you cant take advantage of that improvement.
>> >Ansel worked on prints from the Moon Over Hernandez negative for 
>> >decades. No
>> >two prints are exactly alike. He couldn't do that saving jpgs only.
>> >Cards/memory is cheap. You can save both simultaneously with just some 
>> >loss
>> >on write time. Why not save the raw too since there is a lot you stand to
>> >loose?
>> >Bob
>> >
>> >Bob Adler
>> >
>> >On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:13 PM, mehrdad<msadat at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> >
>>> >>the jpgs from fuji are so good, i don't know why i should shoot raw,
>>> >>so far both phase one and lr are compared against the in camera jpgs
>>> >>by most reviewers and jpgs stand out
>>> >>
>>> >>  -------------------------------------
>>> >>  regards, mehrdad
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Bob Adler<rgacpa at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> >>
>>>> >>>Except he doesn't shoot raw!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Sent from my iPad
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj<jayanand at 
>>>> >>>gmail.com>
>>>> >>>wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>>Nice review:
>>>> >>>http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2013
>>>> >>>/06/fuji-x-e1-the-keeper.html
>>>> >>>theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2013/06/fuj
>>>> >>>i-x-e1-the-keeper-part-ii.html
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>Cheers
>>>>> >>>>Jayanand
>>>>> >>>>
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