Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/07/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Excuse me, but my husband has never bought any of my photography equipment for me. I have a photography business that has always paid its own way. I made enough selling stock last month alone to pay for my M240 that is on order. All of the photos I leased were made with Leica cameras and Leica lenses. I'm just going on my own experience. Tina On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Chris Crawford <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com > wrote: > Tina, > > This is a load of bullshit. I've used Olympus OM gear since I was a kid, > and never had issues with soft edges, fringing, or chromatic aberration > with the Zuiko lenses, and they have good Bokeh. Never had those problems > with Pentax lenses either. If quality really mattered to you, you wouldn't > bother with 35mm anyway. A cheap Mamiya 645 will blow away ANYTHING you > shoot with Leica, no matter what Leica lens you use. I've shot both, and > it is NO CONTEST. > > I have not touched my Leicas since I got my Mamiya 6. The quality > difference is incredible. Leica doesn't want or care about your business > anyway. You got into the system decades ago, when photographers still made > good money on average and Leicas were not much more expensive than Nikons. > If you were starting out today, the only way you'd have a Leica is if your > husband bought it for you. > > That's not a slam on your abilities, its the reality of what working > photographers in Journalism earn now. I became a teacher because I got > damned tired of being f--king poor. Teaching is one of the very few middle > class jobs left here, and I still cannot afford a digital Leica on my pay. > My starting pay in the Ft. Wayne school system is more than the > photographers at our local papers earn, and all of them have been there > for over 20 years! You think any of these working photographers shoot with > Leica jewelry? Hell no. They shoot Nikon. > > You're letting your emotional attachment to a brand get the best of > reason. That is not smart. Leica doesn't give a damn about you; they're a > business, not a church. Being so emotionally invested in your gear just > gives them justification to continue charging astronomical prices. You're > a marketer's wet dream. > > > -- > Chris Crawford > Fine Art Photography > Fort Wayne, Indiana > 260-437-8990 > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 > Become a fan on Facebook > > > > > On 7/1/13 7:58 PM, "Tina Manley" <images at comporium.net> wrote: > > >To me the camera matters. I've used other cameras. For stock or large > >enlargements, you examine the files at 100%. There is no contest. I hate > >chromatic aberrations, fringing, soft edges, awful bokeh - all of which > >you > >get with other lenses and other cameras. With Leica cameras and Leica > >lenses, I don't worry about 100% examinations. They are always good! > > Sometimes great. If I'm going to spend my time and energy and money for > >travel to take photos, I'm not going to take a chance on an inferior > >camera > >or lens. > > > >Tina > > > > > >On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> > >wrote: > > > >> Peter, > >> > >> I post pictures from my M9, my Olympus EP-1, my Pentax Kr, and my > >>iPhone 5. > >> > >> The most pleasurable to use is the M9, but I do sometimes need AF, and > >>thus > >> the other three get some amount of use. > >> > >> The quality of the "three" is not there, but I've learned to use them > >> appropriately, and with my editing eye, I can produce web postings that > >> satisfy, but the high detail of the Leica files enable me to do things > >>with > >> flowers that just are not possible with the others. So, to me, the > >>camera > >> matters. (I could wish for live view and a tilting Electronic > >>viewfinder > >> though.) ;-) > >> > >> hmmm, (Sony?) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com > >> >wrote: > >> > >> > All, > >> > > >> > At the end of the day, whether we are using Leica, Fuji or something > >> else I > >> > don't doubt that Uncle Doctor Ted would impatiently remind us that > >>it's > >> us > >> > not > >> > the cameras that take the photos, and that if we are any good anyway > >>then > >> > the > >> > camera shouldn't matter a huge deal. > >> > > >> > Peter > >> > > >> > > >> > On 26/06/2013 23:25, John McMaster wrote: > >> > > I really wonder if I would have bought into Leica if I was buying > >> > now..... I had not shot with nor knew anybody who owned one (I have > >>owned > >> > Canon, Nikon, Contax, Olympus, Hasselblad, LF etc and shot with a lot > >> more, > >> > all prime lenses etc) and thought the name was all image ;-) > >> > > > >> > > I was coming from an APS-C Nikon and was looking at Canon 5D II or > >>M9, > >> > at that time size (I knew I would not carry a DSLR) so went M9. If the > >> Fuji > >> > series was on the market at the time would I have bought that? > >> > > > >> > >>From http://zackarias.com/blog/ > >> > > > >> > > "You see, for decades Leica was the shit for the traveling > >>journalist, > >> > street shooters, documentary photographers, etc. They are fantastic > >> cameras > >> > with an undeniable heritage. But here?s the deal. The folks who put > >>Leica > >> > on the map can?t afford them any longer. They are a boutique camera > >> > company. The working stiff can?t shell out close to $10,000 for a body > >> and > >> > a lens. Go price out 2 M?s, a 20mm ish lens, a 35mm, and a 75mm. Go > >>price > >> > that out. Then price out an x100s, an X-Pro1, and the Fuji 14mm, 35mm, > >> and > >> > 60mm lens. You still haven?t spent the price of a single Leica body > >>yet. > >> > Let alone two of them. And glass." > >> > > > >> > > With hindsight I would still go Leica, nothing to touch the lenses > >>for > >> > different looks and I prefer the simpler operation, but if I had not > >>used > >> > them what would make me spend 'rather a lot' more on Leica than Fuji? > >> Does > >> > 'full frame' or the build quality make enough of a difference for the > >> price > >> > jump to most people? > >> > > > >> > > john > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > Leica Users Group. > >> > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > >> > > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > =========================================================== > >> > Dr Peter Dzwig > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Leica Users Group. > >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Regards, > >> > >> Sonny > >> http://sonc.com/look/ > >> Natchitoches, Louisiana > >> > >> USA > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > > > > >-- > >Tina Manley > >http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Leica Users Group. > >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > -- Tina Manley http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com