Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/10/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/152934358 I would appreciate your opinion, Mark. Tina On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > I am very interested in seeing this photo but I think all the url's I'm > trying to click on are second hand and broken. Could it be re posted the > url? Perhaps one with a TinyURL to ensure non corruption? I'm really dying > to see it. > > The Rabs. > > > On 10/18/13 4:08 PM, "Tina Manley" <images at comporium.net> wrote: > > > Larry - > > > > I posted the photo because I was appalled and scared and chagrined to > find > > that my in-laws were all Tea-Party supporters who owned non-registered > guns > > because they are convinced that the Muslim president Obama will be coming > > after their guns. I was surprised that anything in the photo was sharp > > because I was shaking with anger as I took it. Then I got up and left, > > saying that I would return when there were no loaded guns in the room. I > > didn't return until the next day when the gun-toting guys were gone. > > > > I like the photo or I would not have posted it. It reflects what I saw > and > > what I felt at the time. If it were up to me, all handguns would be > > abolished since their only purpose is to take lives. > > > > The photo has provoked comment and I'm glad. It served its purpose and > is, > > therefore, a successful photo. > > > > Tina > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM, <lrzeitlin at aol.com> wrote: > > > >> Don't over react to guns. They are common in rural America. There are > far > >> more guns in the US than there are Leicas, Nikon, Canons, and all other > >> fine cameras combined. The gun culture is alive and well not only in the > >> south but in the North West, the mid-Atlantic states and in New England. > >> The next time you take a drive on a cross country highway stop in at a > >> Cabella's or a Bass Pro sporting goods store. You will see enough guns > on > >> display to arm a regiment and enough ammunition to stock a medium sized > >> rebellion. Schools are even closed during deer hunting season in much of > >> Pennsylvania. A successful hunt is the key to a well fed holiday season. > >> New York City even hosted the Bannerman warehouse until it moved up the > >> Hudson to Pollopel Island. Bannerman and family were merchants who > bought > >> up most of the military surplus from the Civil War, the Spanish-American > >> war and WW I. Most of the world's rebellions until the outbreak of WW 2 > >> used Bannerman supplied weapons. My father even had a Sears Roebuck > sized > >> catalog of Bannerman's arms available for resale. > >> > >> When I was a boy the country was much less urban than it is now. In > rural > >> communities gun ownership was accepted as a fact of life. Most families > >> owned at least two guns, a shotgun for hunting and a 22 cal. rifle for > the > >> kids to plink around with. Most high schools had rifle teams, usually > >> subsidized by the Army. Indeed an armed population was considered the > key > >> to national defense. What enemy would attack a country with a well armed > >> citizenry? The NRA, rather than being dedicated to supporting the Second > >> Amendment, was an advocate of teaching marksmanship in schools. > >> > >> I currently own three guns, a shotgun, a rifle, and a handgun. My > favorite > >> is a Browning semi-automatic 22 rifle, also John Browning's favorite > gun. > >> It is beautiful, a true work of art. I bought it on sight 40 years ago. > I > >> lusted after that gun more than I ever lusted after a Leica camera. It > has > >> appreciated in price more than twenty times the price I paid. > >> <http://www.basspro.com/**Browning-SemiAuto-Grade-I-22-** > >> LR-Rifle/product/102< > http://www.basspro.com/Browning-SemiAuto-Grade-I-22-LR-R > >> ifle/product/102> > >> 17873/> > >> > >> I was taught to shoot as a ten year old at a YMCA camp by a German > doctor > >> who had served as in infantryman under the Kaiser during WW I. At one > time > >> I was even capable of shooting a bullet through the center of a > cigarette, > >> end on, at 50 ft. I shake too much now and my vision isn't what it used > to > >> be. > >> > >> The prevalence of arms has a low correlation with gun murder rates. > >> Vermont and New Hampshire are the U.S. states with the highest per > capita > >> gun ownership, minimum regulatory requirements, and also the lowest > rates > >> of gun homicides. What really disturbs me is traveling through Europe > and > >> the Middle East and seeing all those young military types in airports > and > >> wandering the streets with fully armed large magazine assault rifles > slung > >> over their backs. How responsible are they? You guys who are appalled at > >> seeing weapons, think about that. > >> > >> Now about Tina's picture of a "Tea Party" family reunion. This may be a > >> minority opinion but I think it is a poorly composed, unsharp, snapshot > of > >> a family at a dinner table with one person handing a gun to another. > Just a > >> bad picture. Peter is right is stating that prudent gun handling > practices > >> are being violated. The is no indication that it is a "Tea Party" > meeting > >> at all. Even Tina's original title on her web site does not identify > it as > >> such. This picture is far below Tina's usual standard and I suspect was > >> titled and posted only to evoke comment. And you can see. It did. > >> > >> Larry Z > >> > >> > >> > >> ______________________________**_________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See > >> http://leica-users.org/**mailman/listinfo/lug< > http://leica-users.org/mailman/ > >> listinfo/lug>for more information > >> > >> > > > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > -- Tina Manley http:// <http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/>www.tinamanley.com