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Subject: [Leica] Voigtldr 50mm 3.5 Heliar with the Leica M240 ?
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:46:45 -0800
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On Feb 10, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:

> That really highlights different thinking or language on the topic I guess.
> Henning isn't happy with my description 'adventurous' ;-)
> By that I meant, if you are wrong there is just some potential for damage
> and opinions aren't guarantees!
> To be pedantic then; if the retracted lens protrusion rearward does not
> contact the internal chamber or shutter mechanism or cam roller and you
> always fit and remove the lens while carefully maintaining it perpendicular
> to the opening then there is no potential issue. If the dimensions are
> close and you are occasionally less than perfect in handling then it is
> possible to catch on one of those surfaces.
> Or you can tape or zip-tie the lens extended as Leica recommends and avoid
> any possibility of contacting the interior of your camera body when fitting
> or removing the lens.

I measured, the tolerances are so close that, wtf,  I won't be adventurous...


s



> 
> 
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> 
> 
> On 11 February 2014 08:51, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> This has nothing to do with 'adventurous'.
>>> 
>>> Measure it and you will KNOW.
>>> 
>>> I've shot with the Heliar (Tom Abrahamsson's) on the M8, and don't
>> recall any problems.
>> 
>> 
>> no problems with the M8 or M9 but unknown for the M 240....measurements
>> are very ! close, if they are a tiny bit off you will eat your words... so
>> be extremely careful, my solution, tape and a rubber band, lock the lens
>> fully extended...
>> 
>> better safe than sorry
>> 
>> 
>> s
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> If you give me a couple of days I'll be able to re-check for you, if you
>> wish. I've also mounted and retracted a large variety of collapsible
>> lenses, except for the old 90 Elmar. I'd measure that one before I
>> retracted it as it sticks a long way in.
>>> 
>>> However, the old Super Angulon f/3.4 fits and doesn't interfere with the
>> shutter, and neither does the even more protruding Hologon. I've shot a 
>> bit
>> with it on the M240, and while there is rather severe vignetting, that is
>> really the only issue.
>>> 
>>> Henning
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2014-02-10, at 1:24 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well there's the thing Steve! Has anyone ever tried? Some people report
>>>> carefully retracting collapsible lenses into Leica bodies without
>> problems.
>>>> Leica themselves say don't do it (with their own designs). I have never
>>>> seen the lens myself.
>>>> I guess if you owned one and were feeling adventurous you could try?
>>>> Personally I would not. You might try asking Stephen Gandy at
>> Cameraquest?
>>>> If you don't own one but are considering it for its very compact
>> properties
>>>> for carrying, you might look at the little Summarit or the Elmar M 50
>>>> (which can be collapsed safely). I think that Lluis still has one for
>> sale
>>>> by the way.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Geoff
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 11 February 2014 00:27, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> Steve Barbour
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 9, 2014, at 11:53 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Camera Quest reported that it could be collapsed safely into the M8 &
>> M9
>>>>> but advised caution.
>>>>> Isn't this a very rare lens? I had read of  a run of 600 world wide.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Very rare, can I use one safely on the M 240?
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks Geoff
>>>>> 
>>>>> s
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Geoff
>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 10 February 2014 16:46, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Compatible? Problems?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> many thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> steve
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> Steve Barbour
>>>>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> henningw at archiphoto.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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