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Subject: [Leica] I can focus my Noctilux
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Bob Adler)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:29:19 -0800
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You're probably right, Frank. I could try that so I wouldn't have to magnify 
which would eliminate one of the constraints. 
Thanks!

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 11, 2014, at 2:50 PM, "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Steve... You use the M in B+W only, right?
> 
> Bob... You capture in color?
> 
> In color, it is significantly more difficult ( Fuji, probably also true in
> Leica) to see focus peaking, especially in the silver color I get as my 
> only
> choice.....
> \In B+W, with a red Focus peaking indicator, it would be relatively
> trivial......
> 
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at verizon.net
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
> Steve
> Barbour
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:42 AM
> To: Leica LUG
> Subject: Re: [Leica] I can focus my Noctilux
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Three issues I'm having with the Leica M + EVF and my Nocti:
>> 
>> 1.  I have to magnify the EVF image to see the eyes get "peaked"
>> 2.  Once peaked, reframing after depressing the shutter halfway is needed
> as the M only magnifies the center of the image. 
>> 3.  There is a delay between depressing the shutter and the sensor being
> exposed with the EVF (be design unfortunately!).
>> 
>> So I find it hard to use the EVF on people. Easier to just move my head
> forward and backward with the optical range finder and get nearly instant
> exposure when pressing the shutter button.  Hit rate seems better for me. 
>> Non moving objects are just the opposite. 
>> Just my experience.
> 
> 
> let me see if I can speak to this now.been thinking about it on & off for
> hours.
> 
> can you see "the eyes get peaked" without the EVF, if so how ?
> 
> if this is a necessity, how do you do it without the EVF?
> 
> 
> s
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Which is a really interesting topic for me because all else being 
>>>> equal I find that the RF is much more precise.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> more precise than what Geoff ?
>>> have you given an adequate trial to focus peaking?
>>> 
>>>> That is to say that in my experience
>>> 
>>> what is your experience with focus peaking?
>>> 
>>>> there is a range of acceptable focus peaking effect as you move the 
>>>> focus ring (not dissimilar to a plain ground glass in effect?) but 
>>>> only one moment when the RF is truly aligned.However that is not 
>>>> taking into account focus shift which the EVF negates for you.
>>> 
>>> so you 1. see better what you are focussing on 2. have a separate 
>>> confirmation of focus  3. avoid focus shift (a biggie when you are 
>>> wide open) 4. benefit from focus peaking for long lenses as you 
>>> mention below
>>> 
>>>> Of course the RF is not very
>>>> good at all if you want to use R lenses or long teles, or macros or 
>>>> third party adapted lenses!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> so what's not to like?
>>> 
>>> Steve
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Geoff
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11 February 2014 08:40, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 2:17 PM, rgacpa at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Whoop!
>>>>>> Did you try it with just the range finder?
>>>>> 
>>>>> MUCH less certain
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> s
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Steve Barbour 
>>>>>>> <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Steve Barbour 
>>>>>>>> <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> finally, at f1...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/PAW+2014/glasses.jpg.ht
>>>>>>>> ml
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> focussed near lateral RIGHT rim, on RIGHT earpiece, 1/2 inch 
>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>> rim...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Leica M 240 with Noctilux at f1, RAW file done with focus 
>>>>>>>> peaking,
>>>>> using Olympus VF-2..
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> many thanks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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