Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/02/26
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Alamy has just started accepting photos made with an iPhone - only iPhones, not Androids. I went out yesterday and got an iPhone 4S - haven't figured out how to use it yet, but it is certainly better than my old cell phone. It cost 99 cents. I took photos of my chickens this morning. They are still in the phone. Soon I will figure out how to get them out of the phone and onto the internet. Tina On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: > Um, when I use my 4/3 rd Oly or my Pentax Kr DSLR (which is not too often > anymore) and now my Sony A7r, I DON'T LEAVE IT (my M9) AT HOME. > > Nope, it comes to the party too. > > Sometimes, I shoot with my half-half-half-half-half-half-frame camera that > came on my phone, even if I did have ten cameras and thirty lenses within > reach at the moment. > > http://sonc.com/look/?p=3172 > > > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com > >wrote: > > > OK lets see I've gone out and spent seven grand usd on a Leica M40 to > > enable > > my tens of thousands of dollars of Leica glass but wait! Its a bit > heavy!! > > I'll just have to LEAVE IT AT HOME and carry a camera two formats smaller > > instead! Nobody can tell the difference right! > > NOT going to happen. > > And if nobody can tell the difference why am I so heavily invested in > full > > frame? > > > > By the way there is a format between 2x and 1x corp. and Its 1.5 crop and > > remains the most popular selling of DSLR cameras and certainly gives more > > bang for the buck than any other format and lits looking like mirrorless > > soon too. Many of these cameras exist in systems where you can use your > > full > > frame glass on them. They are nicely just a bit lighter and smaller. They > > don't seem like something which came out of a box of Cracker Jacks. And > in > > a > > studio strobe or otherwise non low light situation especially where you > can > > use the lowest iso' s they really may not tell the difference so much. > Like > > on the beach. At high noon. > > But to split that in half and go further smaller with the inane 4/3's > > format > > calling it comparable to the work of top full frame cameras is really too > > much. > > A really great use for a camera half half frame (2x crop) is to put in > > your > > jeans pocket like a Minox which it would hopefully be the same size as. > Or > > the same size more realistically of a Rollei 35. Which come to think of > it > > is a full frame camera. > > In other words a near sub compact format sensor belongs in a near sub > > compact camera body.. > > > > > > On 2/25/14 9:58 PM, "Jim Laurel (gmail)" <jplaurel at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > My photography interests are pretty varied so I'm maintaining a > complete > > Leica > > > M9/M240 digital system, a Canon 5Dmk3 system, and a Micro 4/3 system > > with the > > > Olympus OMD EM-1. We do a lot of diving and my wife insists on a > > full-frame > > > system so she uses the 5Dmk3s, but I think she is slowly succumbing to > > the > > > siren call of Micro 4/3 because it is getting increasingly difficult to > > tell > > > the difference between our results underwater, not to mention that the > > many > > > usability advantages of the EM-1 often make it easier to get the shot > at > > all. > > > It's no wonder they are currently outselling DLSRs by 6 to 1 for this > > > application. I can choose to either use my EM-1 or our 2nd 5DMK3 body > > > underwater, yet I choose the M4/3 simply because of usability, which is > > a huge > > > asset in that environment. Quality is already good enough with the EM-5 > > and > > > even better with the EM-1. Frankly, people are incredulous about the > > results > > > we are getting with M4/3 underwater these days and many are rethinking > > whether > > > the better IQ of full frame is really worth the incredible hassle and > > expense > > > of getting it to some of the more remote diving destinations. > > > > > > I'm trying to do more landscapes these days, especially infrared > > landscapes. > > > So when I have the luxury of working out of a car, and weight doesn't > > matter, > > > I have started to use the 5dMK3 system again. In fact, I just added the > > 17mm > > > and 24mm TS-E lenses to our kit for just this purpose. Also, we are > > preparing > > > to do some landscape astrophotography and the Canon is simply the best > > tool > > > for the job. > > > > > > With the advent of the Leica M240, the M system finally becomes truly > > viable > > > for landscape work. The EVF means I can frame accurately and position > > things > > > like grads properly. The R to M adapter makes it possible to use > > telephotos > > > and focus them accurately. Unfortunately, it doesn't looks like it will > > ever > > > be a suitable tool for landscape astro because none of the M wide > angles > > (24 > > > and wider) are well-corrected enough for coma to work well. > > > > > > The point of all this is horses for courses. If I'm on a dive trip, I'm > > > shooting M4/3 both above and below the water. If it's nighttime > > landscapes, or > > > landscapes where I can accommodate the weight and bulk, it's the Canon. > > If I > > > were going on a long trip during which I was doing a lot of walking > > during the > > > day and wanted the finest IQ, I'd go for the M240. If it is a long > > > through-hike like 800km on the Camino de Santiago, which is a mix of > > candids, > > > landscapes in all sorts of light in in all sorts of weather conditions, > > I'm > > > taking an EM-5 or EM-1. And for everything else, general shooting > around > > home, > > > I'm usually grabbing the EM-1 just because of all the cameras I have at > > my > > > disposal, none are as flexible, easy to use or as fun to use as the OMD > > EM-1. > > > > > > This argument that people have about full-frame vs APS-C vs M4/3 is > > ridiculous > > > because each of those systems has its place. Of the three, APS-C > probably > > > makes the least sense IMO, because it occupies this nether world in > > which the > > > smaller sensor doesn't bring any corresponding reductions in weight or > > bulk - > > > the worst of both worlds. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mark William Rabiner > > Photographer > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > -- > Regards, > > Sonny > http://sonc.com/look/ > Natchitoches, Louisiana > 1714 > Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase > > USA > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > -- Tina Manley http:// <http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/>www.tinamanley.com