Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/03/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Zeiss actually does still make some of its own lenes instead of outsourcing them through Cosina and those lenses are comparable in cost to Leicas; as well as comparable in quality. On 3/8/14 4:31 PM, "Jeffery Smith" <jsmith342 at gmail.com> wrote: > In order to appeal to most shooters willing to plunk down that kind of > money, > I think that the normal lens would have to be at least f/2.0. Leica?s last > film-bade P&S was more like a 40/2.4 Summarit. > > One of the big advantages Zeiss has over Leica is that their comparable > optics > (50/2 or 35/2) are orders of magnitude apart in cost. > > Jeffery > > > On Mar 8, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jim Laurel (gmail) <jplaurel at gmail.com> > wrote: > >> It seems like a good idea would be to come up with a trio of compacts >> along >> the lines of the RX-1. Full frame, and each with a separate fixed focal >> length lens. Say, a 21, 35 and 50mm. Sell them for around $3k each. Sensor >> dust would be a thing of the past. We usually carry at least 2 bodies >> anyway. >> >> >> On Mar 8, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Well if they did really do a direct confrontation on the full frame >>> compact >>> Sony RX1 they'd be doing a camera which has a build in lens and not >>> interechangble ones which would be a bit of a gem. Hence less of a market >>> grabber from the M with interchangeable cash register dings. >>> The Sony has a fixed Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 35mm F2 which certainly >>> dominates >>> the camera as it appears a bit too big for it; really ruining its >>> pocketablility.. But with quality to make it worth it. >>> Leica would likely not make the mistake of ruining the pocketability >>> with an >>> oversize lens. It would make a 35 Summicron of a much more compact >>> design. >>> If they asked me I'd tell them to give the Rollei 35 a nod with a >>> collapsible 40 Elmar. Also a Barnack basic design element. >>> If they were super smart they'd make the thing look like a slightly >>> scaled >>> down Barnack; a slightly scaled down very early Leica body. >>> But I can see them wanting to one up Zeiss with a Summilux 1.4. They can >>> be >>> just as compact. And there is a long history of Leitz - Zeiss speed one >>> upping. I'd tell them to put a 3.5 Elmar on it and make it all about >>> pocketability as its full frame it could be shot at 64,000 easy so >>> optical; >>> speed really is not such a big deal. Weight and size is. >>> >>> A digital Leica Standard (1933) would outclass everything and everybody. >>> They'd all just have to go home. And sulk. >>> >>> >>> On 3/7/14 11:33 PM, "Jeffery Smith" <jsmith342 at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "Eyes are 0n Leica now to come out with its answer to the Sony RX1 full >>>> frame >>>> compact. Not stupidly dumb itself down." >>>> >>>> Mark, any idea of which lens they would use for something like this? >>>> Leica >>>> glass is getting insanely pricey, but would they dare using a >>>> Japanese-made >>>> "Leica" lens? >>>> >>>> Jeffery >>>> >>>> On Friday, March 7, 2014, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> "bringing Leica back to the 4/3." kinda sounds like Leica used to make >>>>> a >>>>> 4/3's camera, and now its coming back home.. Not the case. It's made a >>>>> couple of 4/3's lenes for other companies cameras. >>>>> Leica now is making compact 1.5 crop cameras. If there is a reason why >>>>> it >>>>> should go 4/3's as if its a fad it has a prerogative to join in on I'd >>>>> like >>>>> to know what it is. As is its a company whose mission has always been >>>>> making >>>>> a quality product and senselessly cutting its compact format in half >>>>> does >>>>> not add up. >>>>> Eyes are 0n Leica now to come out with its answer to the Sony RX1 full >>>>> frame >>>>> compact. Not stupidly dumb itself down. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3/6/14 3:06 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com >>>>> <javascript:;>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Wanna bet Ken ;-) ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Geoff >>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7 March 2014 05:58, Ken Iisaka <ken at iisaka.com <javascript:;>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> My guess is that it will be a cosmetically enhanced version of the >>>>>>> Panasonic DMC-GX7, at $500 more, bringing Leica back to the 4/3. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Jim Laurel (gmail) >>>>>>> <jplaurel at gmail.com<javascript:;> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just for fun, who would like to speculate on what Leica will >>>>>>>> announce >>>>> on >>>>>>>> April 24? Will it be the fabled Leica T (typ 701)? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If I had a seat at the conference table, here's what I would I would >>>>>>>> propose: >>>>>>>> -- A modified M mount that supports autofocus. The "Leica M-AF" >>>>>>>> mount. >>>>>>>> -- Re-tool X-Vario to accept these new lenses. This APS-C camera >>>>>>>> will >>>>> be >>>>>>>> the initial offering. This new camera body can read the 6-bit >>>>>>>> coding on >>>>>>>> current M mount lenses. >>>>>>>> -- Release a set of primes with moderate aperture but superlative >>>>>>>> IQ in >>>>>>>> classical focal length equivalents: 35, 50, 28 and 90mm, in that >>>>>>>> order. >>>>>>>> M-AF lenses actually project an image circle sufficient for APS-H. >>>>>>>> -- Customers who want wider, longer or faster can use traditional M >>>>> mount >>>>>>>> lenses >>>>>>>> -- Firmware update for M240 to use the new lenses in crop mode. >>>>>>>> -- Next cycle, release the APS-H body with integrated EVF in the >>>>>>>> traditional position (far left) >>>>>>>> -- Sell body and prime of your choice as a kit. Your choice of an >>>>>>>> M-AF >>>>>>>> prime for the same price. M-AF body and one prime priced between >>>>>>>> M240 >>>>>>>> (body) and X-Vario. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --Jim >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Ken Iisaka >>>>>>> first name at last name dot org or com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>>> Photographer >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mark William Rabiner >>> Photographer >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Mark William Rabiner Photographer http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/