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Subject: [Leica] Comparing film and digital resolution
From: frank.dernie at btinternet.com (FRANK DERNIE)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 08:22:30 +0100 (BST)
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Quite so. In many ways the potential resolution is not that important, since 
with a hand held camera the resolution is not always a limitation.
Lack of flare and boke are both more important to me personally than 
resolution, but these are characteristics of lenses, not film/sensor.
I have pictures from my 3.3 megapixel Canon D30 which I enjoy, and TBH I 
have rarely used film since I found that.
FD



>________________________________
> From: Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net>
>To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> 
>Sent: Sunday, 13 April 2014, 2:07
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparing film and digital resolution
> 
>
>But aren't there other "measurements" of the quality of our photos than 
>just 
>resolution?
>
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: FRANK DERNIE
>Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 11:35 AM
>To: Leica Users Group
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparing film and digital resolution
>
>But surely a single grain in film is either exposed or not, whereas a pixel 
>has, depending on the sensor, thousands of brightness levels. So they are 
>not directly comparable and it would require a big patch of film containing 
>thousands of grains to display the range of tones a single pixel is capable 
>of, though clearly a patch of pixels would be required to compare the 
>effect.
>
>
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>> From: Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
>>To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug at leica-users.org>
>>Sent: Saturday, 12 April 2014, 14:07
>>Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparing film and digital resolution
>>
>>
>>Several years ago, I did the calculations based upon the molecular
>>particulate size of TMax100 film.? I picked that film because the density
>>data was available, and it was the most consistent particulate size film
>>available, and it was reputed to be the most consistent homogenous density
>>mix of crystals within the sensitive film layer.
>>
>>My assumption was that the TMax100 crystalline molecule was the smallest
>>discernible and quantifiable light capturing receptor.? Therefore, the
>>closest analogy to a digital sensor pixel.
>>
>>As I remember it, the particulate size, and therefore the effective pixel
>>density, was around 15MP per square inch.? The closest ( B+W only)
>>comparison is the MM.
>>
>>The MM is about 10MP per square inch.
>>
>>Based upon this, and for all practical purposes, digital sensor technology
>>resolution has caught up with chemical resolution.
>>
>>Too much time on your hands is a bad thing......you worry about things that
>>are purely theoretical.? This happened to me as well when I first retired.
>>Seems a pattern....
>>
>>Frank Filippone
>>Red735i at verizon.net
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