Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/05/14

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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Sunset Swim
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 14:52:49 -0400
References: <CA+yJO1Ckak6MUrS0HLW8e4aHDnE8O-m6fvTByyqQ899-_POJEQ@mail.gmail.com> <2408DAAB74724E9DA182E3C4FE70346F@Family> <CA+yJO1B+PJXwEOGqcwNoxPqxf9x+9H_tryp44Ro0b1m-Ca_HaQ@mail.gmail.com> <AE1436A4182F4F84BA93B52CB0506356@Family> <A43DD176-5888-4931-8ED3-BFFB0711CDBC@icloud.com> <CA+yJO1ALi0DZanv9CBYgLmPpMHitPBDKWuTOq8UrwhjZ8X1huQ@mail.gmail.com> <57A48E0A29444C85961CB79EA519B2A2@Family> <C0294E1366AB48258ED113E399DFE672@syneticfeba505> <CA+yJO1Cn=t8wGeZCBPyn5T=nS3stPJvSZbAbaSSh7cdobk9V2g@mail.gmail.com>

Having said that, it only takes about 5 minutes to move the boy's body down
and line up the heads:

http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/155651192

as opposed to

http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/155638567

Flip back and forth and watch him dive!

Tina


On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:

> Exactly, Ted!  Can I quote you on that ;-)
>
> When I submit photos for stock, I have to check whether they have been
> manipulated or not.  Here is what the rules say:
>
> "Whilst many images may be altered to a certain degree, if the original
> scene has been changed significantly we define it as digitally altered.
> This includes adding, moving, or removing items and major changes to
> saturation, contrast and levels. Essentially, a digitally altered image is
> a distorted image of the original scene.
>
> An image *should not* be classed as digitally altered if it has been
> cropped, converted to black and white or if minor changes have been made to
> levels and saturation.
>
> Editorial customers (e.g. newspapers, magazines, book publishers) need to
> know if an image has been altered such that it no longer has the exact
> appearance of the original. Some customers need to be guaranteed a degree
> of authenticity."
>
> None of the photos I submit for editorial use have been digitally altered.
>  Now for art prints, anything goes!
>
> Tina
>
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 2:01 PM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Douglas mon ami,
>>
>> But that's cheating! If it were an advertisement and selling cars , boats
>> etc. One can fiddle it any old way one wishes. Why? Well most advertising
>> images are faked, changed, sun added, moon added, diver angle changed.?
>> WHATEVER!!!!!
>>
>> However when I look at Tina's photos I only see and appreciate the beauty
>> of a reality moment captured in true simple magic!
>>
>> WHY?
>> Well Tina is an absolutely incredible, "PHOTOJOURNALIST!" And we
>> photojournalist's don't cheat.... WELL WE DON'T! WELL? ;-) I'll never 
>> tell!
>> :-) The advert guys and gals "are producing an image that isn't a captured
>> real life moment. SO WHO CARES?"
>>
>> ERGO? Leave the image alone physically other than for a possible minimal
>> tweak of colour or brightness. MAYBE?
>>
>> cheers,
>> ted
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Barry" <imra at iol.ie>
>>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 5:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Sunset Swim
>>
>>
>>  Tina,
>>> You could do sneaky, and shift the divers body down a tad to align all
>>> four heads in the same plane, and ensure you align them with the corner 
>>> of
>>> the frame to boot. You'd have a gut stopping image then, but I don't know
>>> how to do that manipulation, correct the resulting blanks left on the 
>>> water
>>> as a result, and make the whole thing look seamless.
>>>
>>> Life is complicated....
>>>
>>> Douglas
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Manley" <images at 
>>> comporium.net>
>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:24 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Sunset Swim
>>>
>>>
>>>  OK.  I'm posting two alternate crops:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/155638567
>>>>
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/155638571
>>>>
>>>> Which one?  Better than the original?  I have lots more of the boys
>>>> swimming and diving, but this is the only one where he's perfectly
>>>> upside
>>>> down!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Tina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 2:33 PM, George Lottermoser <
>>>> george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On May 13, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Douglas Barry wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Personally, I think it looks better and has better impact, Tina.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Douglas
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Manley" > <
>>>>> images at comporium.net>
>>>>> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:40 PM
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Sunset Swim
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> How is this?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/155634895
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Compared to http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/155633772
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree that the tighter crop
>>>>> 1) has more impact
>>>>> 2) makes it look "less dangerous"
>>>>>
>>>>> however, putting "diver" dead center
>>>>> does not work for me.
>>>>> I'd be searching for the tight yet asymmetrically balanced composition
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> George Lottermoser
>>>>> george at imagist.com
>>>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> http:// <http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/>www.tinamanley.com
>>>>
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>
>
> --
> Tina Manley
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>
>
>


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Tina Manley
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