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Subject: [Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 12:29:08 -0800
References: <D07B4CA2.2AA42%mark@rabinergroup.com> <0A5BF6FB-991A-4CFE-889B-0B85E8010B09@gmail.com> <B2383A67-CF26-4C00-B33C-A6454631B1B6@mac.com> <CAFfkXxuBUia0OF7DRD0M_m4s-EtiJ3WRFOrpTYqO9_mX7+PuFQ@mail.gmail.com> <66A05BD8-18D5-4DCB-AE75-4E372C7705EB@gmail.com> <CAFfkXxsr-_uJSWG9rU7gX1cvVhQt2oW5M_rOdww_z=w+PQhFdg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Sonny...

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bob, there's lots of A7s material out there for so new a camera.   look at
> Youtube, and also there's a facebook group with lots of stuff.  If you have
> specific questions, I can answer them about A7 r and A7s, except I do not
> use them for video.
>
> The other thing is the A7s has great low light ability.   I recently did
> some displays that printed six feet tall from my 15mm C/V lens and they
> looked spectacular.   http://sonc.com/look/?p=3822
>
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm getting a bit confused in this thread, all. On the Sony site from
> > least to most expensive are the A7, A7S, & A7S.
> > The A7R has more MP, but a noisy shutter, yes? More MPs only advantage is
> > larger prints, better cropping?
> > A7S is the least MP, but most expensive. Newer processor, newer chip
> > construction. So video is emphasis, but newer sensor build improves wide
> > angle performance? Silent shutter mode not on other 2?
> > Is there somewhere best to compare? I'd prefer the input of this list's
> > Leica users...
> > Thanks for unravelling for me...
> > Bob
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On Nov 2, 2014, at 8:20 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > If you want to see many other examples, most of my pictures posted
> since
> > > the last new year have been with either the A7r or, (after it was
> stolen)
> > > the A7s, exif provided go to http://sonc.com/look/
> > >
> > >> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Adam Bridge <abridge at mac.com> 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Weighing in as someone who actually uses a Sony A7 & A7R on a regular
> > >> basis, with Leica glass, I have to endorse the ability of the camera
> to
> > >> focus well, especially in very low light conditions.
> > >>
> > >> Friday night we had a wedding rehearsal dinner in a very dark room. I
> > took
> > >> the A7 (my M8 would have been totally useless) with a CV f1.2 35mm
> lens
> > >> (the Noctilux wasn?t a good choice because of close focus limitations
> > and I
> > >> could only take one lens). I was shooting anywhere from ISO 16,000 to
> > >> 24,000 wide open or just a bit stopped down so I could pretend I had
> > some
> > >> depth of field.
> > >>
> > >> The result was like shooting Neopan 1600, at least to my eye.
> > >>
> > >> Here?s an example, processed from color to B&W (which I had intended
> to
> > do
> > >> from the start) in Lightroom 5.6 which includes native support for the
> > Sony
> > >> cameras as have the last few versions. Frank might want to update
> unless
> > >> there?s a reason to hang around with the previous generation?s
> software.
> > >>
> > >> <
> > >>
> >
> http://adam-bridge.smugmug.com/Family/2014-Pauls-Wedding-Trip/i-Wj6r27v/0/X3/2014-10-31-rehersal_dinner-29-X3.jpg
> > >> <
> > >>
> >
> http://adam-bridge.smugmug.com/Family/2014-Pauls-Wedding-Trip/i-Wj6r27v/0/X3/2014-10-31-rehersal_dinner-29-X3.jpg
> > >>
> > >> There are more snaps from that dinner and from work the previous day
> as
> > we
> > >> toured.
> > >>
> > >> Oh, here?s one of Ric Carter I shot at our lunch:
> > >>
> > >> <
> > >>
> >
> http://adam-bridge.smugmug.com/Family/2014-Pauls-Wedding-Trip/i-hdn2Msh/0/X3/2014-10-31-north_carolina_trip_friday-05-X3.jpg
> > >> <
> > >>
> >
> http://adam-bridge.smugmug.com/Family/2014-Pauls-Wedding-Trip/i-hdn2Msh/0/X3/2014-10-31-north_carolina_trip_friday-05-X3.jpg
> > >>
> > >> Ric is a great guy (but you knew that already, eh?) a great
> > >> conversationalist and recommended a super lunch spot (the Raleigh
> Times
> > >> Bar) where we enjoyed some seriously good lunch.
> > >>
> > >> I can understand why being pro any other camera but a Leica on the
> list
> > >> might ruffle feathers. But the new M is terribly expensive, seems a
> bit
> > >> fragile from reports I?ve been reading, and doesn?t do some things as
> > well
> > >> as the Sony.
> > >>
> > >> I?m thinking Sony may be wishing they had designed the E mount a bit
> > >> differently at this point because it does place challenges on the
> > designers
> > >> of future lenses. Leica had to work out its own issues with its sensor
> > to
> > >> make it work well with its own wide angle lenses and even then
> there?s a
> > >> lot of software involved behind the scenes (ignore that man behind the
> > >> curtain?) to get it to come together.
> > >>
> > >> For me, I?m with Frank. Sony A7(RS) are my new Leicas. I?ll be buying
> > more
> > >> Zeiss glass to complement them.
> > >>
> > >> I will say that I have no issue with focusing using the ?zoom? system.
> > >> Native lenses like the new manual Zeiss lenses, will dip into zoom
> mode
> > as
> > >> you focus which works rather nicely.
> > >>
> > >> Adam Bridge
> > >>
> > >>> On Nov 2, 2014, at 8:24 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Well there ya go. The Sony a7s is not cropped but full frame. It is
> > less
> > >> expensive. Maybe gaffers tape?  It is a premium product, being used to
> > >> shoot films with 4k.  Sony imaging is what you are watching when you
> are
> > >> watching baseball football and soccer (football).  And when you get
> into
> > >> that driverless car, Sony will steer it.
> > >>>
> > >>> This is the camera you were wishing for on the LUG aloud, Mark,
> > >> remember? By brand name!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Leica Users Group.
> > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Sonny
> > > http://sonc.com/look/
> > > Natchitoches, Louisiana
> > > 1714
> > > Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
> > >
> > > USA
> > >
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> > > Leica Users Group.
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> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Sonny
> http://sonc.com/look/
> Natchitoches, Louisiana
> 1714
> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>
> USA
>
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>



-- 
Bob Adler


In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7)
Message from sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7)
Message from abridge at mac.com (Adam Bridge) ([Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7)
Message from sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7)
Message from rgacpa at gmail.com (Bob Adler) ([Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7)
Message from sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7)