Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/11/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]> On Nov 21, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes; your correct. That's why I never play poker!! ;-) especially for money, as it should be given your metier. Steve > > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >>> On Nov 21, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Or as game theory suggests, there are three things to consider: >>> You know what you know >>> You know what you don't know >> >> >> >> >>> And you don't know what you don't know >> >> >> sounds like it, I think ....? >> >> which is why serendipity always leads to the most important >> discoveries.... >> >> >> steve >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at >>> gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> On Nov 21, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Steve: Are you telling me, as a Doctor, that I should take 2 aspirin >> and >>>>> stop worrying? >>>> >>>> >>>> one may be a bit too much.... >>>> >>>> the paradox re focussing with an EVF, is that the lenses that are always >>>> in focus, are the hardest to focus, and the lenses that are the hardest >> to >>>> focus, are easy to focus... >>>> >>>> yes, yes it's true... >>>> >>>> (maybe we need to share those asprins...) >>>> >>>> steve >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Frank Filippone >>>>> Red735i at verizon.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] >>>>> On >>>> Behalf >>>>> Of Steve Barbour >>>>> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 3:25 PM >>>>> To: Leica LUG >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] EVF cameras and especially non native lenses..... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I have been on the hunt for my "ideal" camera. >>>>>> The Nikon D7100 is pretty good, lenses that are light in weight are >>>>>> pretty marginal in performance. ( relative to Leica lenses) and it >>>>>> does not offer a EVF. >>>>>> The Fuji XE-1 is pretty great, but the smaller sensor is not quite as >>>>>> useful as a FF sensor would be, for WA lenses. I routinely shoot with >>>>>> the WATE and a 21. >>>>>> I was lucky enough to get a used A7 from a friend of a Lugger >> recently. >>>>>> Bolted on a Leica 24 mm lens and went a shootin.... >>>>>> What I have noted is that as a WA shooter, it is really pretty hard to >>>>>> focus precisely >>>>> >>>>> only because it's almost always in focus.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> s >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> , due to the great DOF WA lenses offer.... Even magnifying the EVF, >>>>>> the real plane of focus hardly is obvious.... Of course, the DOF >>>>>> helps to get well focused images even if the precise focus plane is >>>>>> not right on the money. >>>>>> >>>>>> My M ( put in a number here) never did this.. it was always as easy or >>>>>> as hard to focus, no matter what lens. And ewhen in calibration, it >>>>>> absolutely put the focus plane where it should have been, according to >>>> the >>>>> VF. >>>>>> >>>>>> A Native Sony lens on this camera would be no easier to manually >>>>>> focus, an AF Lens would be trivial..... >>>>>> I am learning a lesson.... My "ideal" camera has yet to be >>>>>> invented......or at least, it would need new AF lenses to go with.... >>>>>> >>>>>> I am somewhat inspired to say that the M (Type 240) is as close, on >>>>>> specs, to "ideal" as can be gotten..... >>>>>> EVF when you need it, Optical RF when you need it... best of both >>>>>> worlds..... >>>>>> >>>>>> Then again, I have said that before, different camera, same >> words...... >>>>>> >>>>>> Frank Filippone >>>>>> Red735i at verizon.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bob Adler >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > -- > Bob Adler > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information