Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/12/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]You're kids going going to college and wanting to be a photographer and pursuing that in thier course load and you're buying them an innovative Sony or Fuji? You'd be them a disservice. Cute little "innovative" read mirrorless cropped cameras are for people who have the money and not the care. Get your kid a solid DSLR which has been made by a camera company which has been making cameras for a few years and which is likely to be making them a few more. And those names are Leica, Canon and Nikon. Full Frame. Get them a wide angle zoom. A 50. And a short or medium telephoto lens. And don't have it be a surprise have them in on these decisions. On 12/4/14 11:06 AM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: > Very sorry Sonny. > Interesting though about the "sonny boy". When I was growing up, some > called me Bobby Boy... > So youthful... perhaps I should go back to that... > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Bob, >> >> Funny that you spelled my name Sony. My chief engineer used to call me >> "Sony" all the time.... >> >> The story goes that when Mr. Morita was starting Sony he wanted to name it >> Sonny, because they were the young engineers. >> >> Wikipedia: He created *Sony* from a combination of *sonus* and the >> English phrase *sonny boy*, which "conveyed to him the youthful energy and >> irreverence he wanted at the heart of the company." (Because "o" is >> pronounced in Japanese with a long vowel sound, the connection between >> "Sony" and "sonny" is not apparent to English speakers.) >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> All good to know, Geoff and Sony: stuff I didn't know as just a consumer >> of >>> former products. I loved the fidelity of my Betamax: used to play and >> watch >>> great movies, esp. opera's, over and over. Had a very nice collection. >>> I guess once burned, shame on me... >>> As for the M8, I'm not sure that info was available to those of us not >> well >>> connected to Leica: not widely announced for what I recall. Glad to hear >>> it: Means my M240 may have a useful life longer than 3-5 years, though my >>> desire for the next best from Leica may not last that long :-) >>> >>> I guess the bottom line is that the Leica takes the images I want and I >>> love using it. Hard to say about most other consumables: my car does the >>> same as does the Alpa/Phase system. 2 seems to be plenty for a >> non-traveler >>> like me. I did buy the Fuji for Jane, my wife, which I can use as a >> backup >>> if ever needed. >>> >>> And I do love the innovative thinking of Sony and Fuji: I think Leica >> will >>> certainly use some of their ideas in the future. Will certainly be slow >> to >>> market as per Leica's long history, but it will be quality and Leica like >>> in handling no doubt. >>> >>> Thanks again for the education! >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 6:43 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>>> As far as Sony not making lenses; they do have an array. Six are out, >>>> (five and one nearly out,) but of course, they do have other lenses in >>> the >>>> lineup that will fit the A7x line with and without adapters. The >> camera >>>> has a mode to run E mount (NEX) lenses without vignetting. One of the >>>> available adapters translates autofocus for the A mount lenses to the >> A7 >>>> camera. >>>> >>>> 6 full frame full frame FE (for A7x series) >>>> >>>> 6 E mount (apc size NEX) >>>> >>>> 12 A mount (Konica A Mount) (will autocrop on Sony full frame >>> cameras >>>> >>>> 24 full frame A mount (K A mount full frame) >>>> >>>> 2 A mount adapters for E mount cameras >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> http://store.sony.com/full-frame-E-mount-lenses/cat-27-catid-All-Full-Frame-E >> -Mount-Lenses >>>> >>>> SonC >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bob, >>>>> >>>>> I hear your pain about Beta, but it was bettah. Funny thing, I had >> it >>>> at >>>>> home, and kept using it for my off-air recordings quite happily as it >>> was >>>>> head and shoulders over VHS. (I still have my machine.) We had a >> VHS >>>>> machine for rental tapes. >>>>> >>>>> On the other hand, in the broadcast field, by the early eighties, >> Beta >>>>> morphed into Betacam and became the standard for broadcast. We used >> it >>>> for >>>>> Electronic News Gathering for a long time and is still used for >>> archiving >>>>> in a many places. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Indeed! I got screwed by Betamax and have never bought into Sony >> ideas >>>>>> that >>>>>> have their foundation in proprietary tech since. Betamax was of much >>>>>> higher >>>>>> quality than VHS, if anyone remembers. I'm all about quality (this >> is >>> a >>>>>> Leica list, yes?). Then poof, it was gone. My player broke a year >>> later >>>>>> and >>>>>> that was that. >>>>>> They came out with stereo minidiscs that were supposed to be the >>>>>> audiophile's dream come true for digital music portability. Gone in >> 2 >>>>>> years: poof! Glad I didn't buy into that. >>>>>> Fuji may do the same, but certainly seems committed. Leica has >> finally >>>>>> stepped up to the digital plate, albeit slowly and somewhat behind >> the >>>> big >>>>>> tech companies. But is sure is still around and still a quality >>>> product. A >>>>>> bit disconcerting with dropping support of the M8 though (did >> they?). >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Henning Wulff < >>> henningw at archiphoto.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2014-12-03, at 12:12 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj < >> jayanand at gmail.com >>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Another interesting one - Sony vs Fuji: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2014/12/the- >> big-difference-between-sony-and-fuji.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> Jayanand >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's pretty much what I've always thought about Sony and Fuji as >>>> well. >>>>>>> On top of that, Sony seems to have this incredible itch to go off >>> in a >>>>>>> completely new direction every 6 months. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Henning Wulff >>>>>>> henningw at archiphoto.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>> information >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Bob Adler >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Sonny >>>>> http://sonc.com/look/ >>>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana >>>>> 1714 >>>>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase >>>>> >>>>> USA >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Sonny >>>> http://sonc.com/look/ >>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana >>>> 1714 >>>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase >>>> >>>> USA >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bob Adler >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Sonny >> http://sonc.com/look/ >> Natchitoches, Louisiana >> 1714 >> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase >> >> USA >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > -- Mark William Rabiner Photographer http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/