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Subject: [Leica] Noctilux and Sony A7?
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 04:57:25 -0800
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> On Dec 12, 2014, at 8:54 PM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> With the M it can be done at anytime with Live view. But does it matter? 
> So you know it's out: now what? With the sony (or any EVF) WYSIWYG. 
> 
> I guess with the Sony, if there is little shutter lag, the EVF focusing 
> would be great. Is there? Is the newest Sony quieter with less lag? The 
> M's lag with EVF just kills getting the moment. Using the M's range finder 
> is only limited by your predictive/reactive capabilities. Personally I 
> think at close distance at f1 it's a crap shoot whatever you use. Chances 
> are better the further away you get. Physics rules. 
> 
> I'd like to try a Sony someday. See how the Nocti works... Let's get 
> together!!
> :-)


for sure Bob asap



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> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at 
>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you Steve, This will be a very interesting test. I have to tell 
>>> you that I?ve get a big improvement on my Lux 75 after I?ve sent it to 
>>> Wetzlar to be calibrated, at the same time I?ve ordered add the 6 bit 
>>> coding, but I think this has not any influence in focusing precision.
>> 
>> 
>> calibration helps, but there is no way a week later or a year later, to 
>> know if it remains in the same good calibration....aye there's the rub...
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Amiti?s
>>> Lluis
>>> 
>>>> El 13/12/2014, a las 01:40, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
>>>> escribi?:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at 
>>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your Hospital images are unforgettable!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> you are very kind Lluis, here I am thinking of the technical issues 
>>>> only, I may when time allows simply do a series of dandelion shots: w 
>>>> Nocti at f1   and Summilux 75mm at f1.4,  on the Sony 7,  to have a 
>>>> look...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> steve
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Amiti?s
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> El 13/12/2014, a las 01:16, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
>>>>>> gmail.com> escribi?:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at 
>>>>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sonny,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I?ve never owned a Noctilux, just play with some ones borrowed by 
>>>>>>> friends but what do you say is in my opinion one of the 
>>>>>>> characteristics things of this lens, it is difficult obtain a 
>>>>>>> perfect picture but when yo got it it is exceptional?!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> exactly Lluis, a major reason why it's difficult, is the need to 
>>>>>> obtain perfect  focus at f1. When you focus imo with a Sony EVF with 
>>>>>> focus peaking, it's far easier to nail the focus....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> my experience with focussing a Noctilux at f1 derived from my earlier 
>>>>>> kids in hospital images....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> steve
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> El 12/12/2014, a las 22:57, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> escribi?:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The point is to walk away with the image that you had in mind.  The 
>>>>>>>> image
>>>>>>>> that I wanted to show you.  Look! See what I see?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I was unsuccessful with a Noctilux and made maybe three really 
>>>>>>>> wonderful
>>>>>>>> shots in the year I owned it, and a couple dozen I liked.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> (Ironically, two of the shots were made into posters and sold 
>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>> hundred copies for the Natchitoches Historic Foundation.)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If I
>>>>>>>> ?still ?
>>>>>>>> had it with a Sony or an M, I would be out there with it glued to my
>>>>>>>> camera, because I'm crazy for available dark pictures
>>>>>>>> ?, and I know I'd be lovin' it and you guys would be lookin' at 
>>>>>>>> that EXIF
>>>>>>>> line and wishing you were me.  ;-)?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sonny
>>>>>>>> http://sonc.com/look/
>>>>>>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>>>>>>>> 1714
>>>>>>>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>>> 
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