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Subject: [Leica] [OM] IMG: The Blessing, Redone
From: tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:56:33 -0500
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Believe me, I tried every angle.  From the other side, the flowers were in
the way and the rail for the stairs was growing out of his head. I took
many photos from both sides and the front.  The best ones were from stage
left.  The only problems were the visor and the mike.  I couldn't remove
the visor, but I could wait until he took it off momentarily.  I could not
remove the mike except in PS.  I will keep both files, with the mike for
documentary or news, without the mike for stock or promotional use.  I
can't imagine that HHDL would want photos of himself with a mike in front
of his mouth to use for brochures or websites.  I have not altered reality
since his mouth was there behind the mike all the time!!

Tina

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Tina & Nathan:
>
> My re-action is the same as both of you. It's there and I'm covering it as
> a
> "NEWS EVENT?" The mike stays or if space and time allow. And I could find
> an
> angle where the mike wasn't seen? I suppose shooting from his right-hand
> side in this case?
>
> But only if there was space and it also afforded an interesting angle I
> could move to. OR? I was allowed to move to, I would?
>
> That option doesn't always present itself at an event such as this.
>
> However, if nothing could be done then you run with the image you captured
> with no concerns about the mike as it's part of being a photojournalist and
> not a commercial shooter who would probably clean the shot up and remove
> it.
>
> But as Tina points out. When and if she were to sell it as a "commercial
> photo" not a "news photo." She Might? Could? Maybe no mike in sight?
> Particularly these days on a computer screen, it's a piece of cake! And
> that
> is fair game.
>
> However? These days with so many unscrupulous characters with all kinds of
> "recording devices?" What you see isn't real in many cases. Or they'd not
> likely have seen the mike as a "Real Photographer would!" And if used in
> any
> form of news event they'd change the reality of the moment. ERGO? It
> becomes
> a lying cheating piece of untruthful piece of garbage! That should be in
> file 13! The garbage pit!
>
> cheers,
> Dr. ted
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf
> Of
> Tina Manley
> Sent: November-10-14 10:43 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] [OM] IMG: The Blessing, Redone
>
> If it's intended as documentary, I don't make changes like that.  This will
> be used for stock and promotional photos, both of which are often much more
> heavily manipulated than removing a mike.
>
> Tina
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> wrote:
>
> > Removing the mike crosses a line which I am not willing to cross with my
> > own photos. But of course this is your photo and your decision.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Nathan
> >
> > Nathan Wajsman
> >
> > Alicante, Spain
> > http://www.frozenlight.eu
> > http://www.greatpix.eu
> > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> > Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> >
> > Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
> >
> > YNWA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10 Nov 2014, at 17:10, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > PESO:
> > >
> > > I worked on The Blessing photo, desaturating the flowers in the
> > background
> > > and removing the mike from HHDL's mouth:
> > >
> > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/158185541
> > >
> > > Better?  The two previous are the other editions.
> > >
> > > C&C greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Tina
> > >
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