Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/11/21

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Subject: [Leica] EVF cameras and especially non native lenses.....
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 16:47:21 -0800
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Or as game theory suggests, there are three things to consider:
You know what you know
You know what you don't know
And you don't know what you don't know

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> > On Nov 21, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > Steve: Are you telling me, as a Doctor, that I should take  2 aspirin and
> > stop worrying?
>
>
> one may be a bit too much....
>
> the paradox re focussing with an EVF, is that the lenses that are always
> in focus, are the hardest to focus, and the lenses that are the hardest to
> focus, are easy to focus...
>
> yes, yes it's true...
>
> (maybe we need to share those asprins...)
>
> steve
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Frank Filippone
> > Red735i at verizon.net
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On
> Behalf
> > Of Steve Barbour
> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 3:25 PM
> > To: Leica LUG
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] EVF cameras and especially non native lenses.....
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have been on the hunt for my "ideal" camera.
> >> The Nikon D7100 is pretty good, lenses that are light in weight are
> >> pretty marginal in performance.  ( relative to Leica lenses)  and it
> >> does not offer a EVF.
> >> The Fuji XE-1 is pretty great, but the smaller sensor is not quite as
> >> useful as a FF sensor would be, for WA lenses.  I routinely shoot with
> >> the WATE and a 21.
> >> I was lucky enough to get a used A7 from a friend of a Lugger recently.
> >> Bolted on a Leica 24 mm lens and went a shootin....
> >> What I have noted is that as a WA shooter, it is really pretty hard to
> >> focus precisely
> >
> > only because it's almost always in focus....
> >
> >
> > s
> >
> >
> >
> >> , due to the great DOF WA lenses offer....  Even magnifying the EVF,
> >> the real plane of focus hardly is obvious....  Of course, the DOF
> >> helps to get well focused images even if the precise focus plane is
> >> not right on the money.
> >>
> >> My M ( put in a number here) never did this.. it was always as easy or
> >> as hard to focus, no matter what lens.  And ewhen in calibration, it
> >> absolutely put the focus plane where it should have been, according to
> the
> > VF.
> >>
> >> A Native Sony lens on this camera would be no easier to manually
> >> focus, an AF Lens would be trivial.....
> >> I am learning a lesson....  My "ideal" camera has yet to be
> >> invented......or at least, it would need new AF lenses to go with....
> >>
> >> I am somewhat inspired to say that the M (Type 240) is as close, on
> >> specs, to "ideal" as can be gotten.....
> >> EVF when you need it, Optical RF when you need it... best of both
> >> worlds.....
> >>
> >> Then again, I have said that before, different camera, same words......
> >>
> >> Frank Filippone
> >> Red735i at verizon.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
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-- 
Bob Adler


Replies: Reply from steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] EVF cameras and especially non native lenses.....)
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Message from steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] EVF cameras and especially non native lenses.....)
Message from red735i at verizon.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] EVF cameras and especially non native lenses.....)
Message from steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] EVF cameras and especially non native lenses.....)