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Subject: [Leica] Kodak Chemistry going forward
From: lew1716 at gmail.com (Lew Schwartz)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 15:25:40 -0500
References: <CAFuU78fH+A6ob+ihPWB3nxDoMLo-PdRtstrJm2ex-9QXXrO5eA@mail.gmail.com> <D0A4CEAE.2D639%mark@rabinergroup.com>

XTOL/MYTOL both create good adjacency effects at higher dilutions, same as
D76.


-Lew Schwartz

On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:

> The reason why I'd really look forward to trying the D76 with ascorbic acid
> is the Metol used instead of Phenidone.
> Xtol is not a pushing formula you are using the iso number on your box of
> film. Same as D76 for the most part.
> Metol I prefer to Phenidone because its a sharper and more clearer looking
> developer than Phenidone. Much better adjacency effects. Good ones.
> So if Xtol goes under you can mix up your own with Phenidone or Metol/Elon
> whatever you want. I'd go with the latter. Or at least try it. The water in
> NY has a varied history.
>
> Xtol has been a miracle paradigm shifter for darkroom work. But its miracle
> mainly is the use of acerbic acid as a developing agent. And that can be
> applied to a lot of different pre existing formulas even ones not based on
> Phenidone.
>
>
> On 12/3/14 2:13 PM, "Lew Schwartz" <lew1716 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The phenidone in XTOL affords a reliably higher iso than D76 type
> > developers (at the cost of pushability), plus you can replenish XTOL with
> > more XTOL. The same is true for the published MYTOL formulas. I used the
> > same 1gal of XTOL, replenished for each roll of film, for over a year
> > before I started digital. It was still working just fine when I dumped
> it.
> >
> >
> > -Lew Schwartz
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> If you added a tap of ascorbic acid (vitamins C) as a friend of mine
> did to
> >> just mixed up D76 1:1 you'd find the results not that far from Xtol and
> >> maybe even better. Actually a lot of people did this. Still doing it
> maybe.
> >> Xtol without the fear.
> >> If your ascorbic acid (maybe just get some in powder from either from a
> >> drugstore or a photo place) is a little chunky looking as in not fully
> >> dissolved I'd not worry about it.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/3/14 12:12 PM, "Lew Schwartz" <lew1716 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> As I get ready to resume darkroom work, I'm looking to mix up my
> >> favorite,
> >>> XTOL. I'm apprehensive that it's availability is uncertain due to the
> >>> bankruptcy. I'm surprised, however, not to find any concern about this
> >>> anywhere. Has Kodak assured us that the photo chemical division is
> alive
> >> &
> >>> well going forward?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Lew Schwartz
> >>>
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