Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/01/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]HCB didn't ;-) Ph Le 17 janv. 2015 ? 15:23, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> a ?crit : > ?I?m not interested for the photography it is the life what interest me? is > a great thing to say for a person who has no patience to spend one minute > in > the darkroom but the money to hire high end custom printers who hang on his > every need. > We all admire HCB but in past decades you could go to a hundred photo > gallery shows and not find one photographer who didn't print his own > prints. > A higher percentage perhaps for color shows. > > > On 1/16/15 8:50 PM, "Susan Ryan" <skalte at icloud.com> wrote: > >> Love this group. > > Sue > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 14, 2015, at 4:34 PM, >> Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Ted, >> >> First >> all thank you for your words to my work, your words are, as usual, a true >> lesson. >> >> I?m reading a small book recently published of interviews to >> HCB and I realize several things, he has two special sentences that >> caught my >> interest ?I?m not interested for the photography it is the life what >> interest >> me? and ?the art of viewing is everything?. This sounds me?. someone has >> make >> a DVD I saw several times ?The Art of Observation??. I think your e-mail >> desserves a deep personal response. >> >> I think that when someone start into >> the photography the main concern is take pictures, nice pictures, when you >> become more experienced the main concern is capturing the essence of the >> life, >> and I think as well, you shall be rich in your inner life to be able to >> view >> and capture the life around you. Actually I?m mostly interested to read >> and >> know about the thoughts of the great photographers than to see the images, >> imaging can not be just an aesthetic result but a consequence of >> introspection, what can otherwise help our gaze be surprised by >> everything we >> see?. When I was young, I was admiring the great photographers visiting >> exotic >> Countries, I was not able to do the same, on the other side I?ve >> discovered >> the great humanistic photographers, Doisneau, Izis, Weiss, Ronis, Boubat, >> Riboud, Mary Ellen Mark ? and many others and I?ve asked my self why are >> they >> surprised by their look by the everyday life around them?? if they have >> found >> it, I shall do an effort and try to find also the same impact. I?m sorry >> for >> this explanation, but this explain one of the reasons how and why I?ve >> became >> interested for the kind of photography I?m doing. >> >> You have said another >> memorable sentence: >> >> <<YOU CAN ONLY SHOW IT, TELL THEM, AGAIN & AGAIN! >> "But you ain't going to teach it!>> >> >> I feel very honored and excited with >> the words you say to me, really, I do not deserve such. Not if I can >> teach, >> however, I would be satisfied if he knew how analyze their pictures. In >> the >> LUG we have a very high photographic quality level, however I see much >> worth >> what abounds in the world of photography, pure garbage from pictures made >> in >> the street who think they are street photography, others taken with the >> sole >> obsession to demonstrate the exceptional qualities of a new lens >> inadvertently >> falling into marketing the manufacturers own favor, with many photographs >> pictures. Perhaps this is a emerging new photographic specialty ?Camera >> Tester"? >> >> I apologize if you think that what I have written I want to give >> a lesson, is not it, I think it is the first time in my life I express >> with >> all sincerity and humility what I really think and feel, and only show it >> by >> gratitude and answer to my dear friend Ted. When something is done >> spontaneously by instinct, is not a merit, it is a natural characteristic >> to >> follow as simply as my friend advised saying "KISS" >> >> Thank You! >> >> >> Cheers >> Lluis >> >> >> >> >> >>> El 14/01/2015, a las 00:07, Ted Grant >> <tedgrant at shaw.ca> escribi?: >>> >>> Peter offered this question too Lluis: >>> >> >>>>> Can you "translate" what you do by instinct into terms that ordinary >>> >> people could >>>> understand (especially people who don't understand >> photography anywhere >>> near as you)? <<<<<<< >>> >>> Hi Lluis & Peter. >>> May >> I interject here, please?" >>> >>> After being the key note lecturer for the >> "LEICA INTERNATIONAL CAPE COD >>> SEMINAR" for 16 years. Not counting lecturing >> to amateur groups, university >>> journalism classes and myriads of >> professional groups, mixed throughout my >>> 60 plus years. A tad bit of >> experience. >>> >>> Trying to teach humans how to make their instinct re-act to >> a scene or >>> situation is an almost impossibility. Humans are humans and >> their re-actions >>> are not equal one unto another! Some are so slow the >> bodies are being >>> carried away before they take the lens cap off! Or turn on >> the camera? Set >>> the ISO! Or take it out of the case? Or they don't even see >> a picture lying >>> face down twenty feet in front of them> OH sorry that was >> some "old one eyed >>> guy!" ;-) >>> >>> I have as others on the LUG, been in >> Llui's presence when he is street >>> shooting he is so fast! And I swear.... >> "INVISIBLE" to his subjects that he >>> has the photo taken, turned ready to >> shoot something else in an entirely >>> different direction and the subjects >> have absolutely no idea he took their >>> photo. >>> >>> And no matter how well >> you explain and show brilliant images, the >>> "SEE-RE-ACT-CLICK" can't be >> taught! You can explain it a million times in >>> whatever language you wish! >> But if the people "DO NOT" have rapid fire >>> natural born human instincts >> they will miss the "LlUIS TYPE PHOTO MOMENTS!" >>> PERIOD! Or be extremely >> lucky! >>> >>> Instincts / re-actions are "to each his own." We're made that >> way. As often >>> as you show images of sports figures in mid-flight of a dive >> or whatever >>> during a jump, leap in the air there are those that after a 100 >> tries? A >>> 1000 tries? >>> Will still be looking at their camera to see what >> they set it at "OR SOME >>> TECHIE THING?" ;-) >>> >>> Then there is Lluis with >> instincts I swear he feels the image before he >>> see's & shoots IT! :-) >>> >> >>> Then today you have all those whiz-bang "FANCY-PHONE CAMERAS" that so >> many >>> people have. And without question they nearly all think they are >>> >> "SUPER-SHOOTERS!" "Oh I don't need any lessons I've got my super-camera >>> >> i-Phone!" Added to the insult? "Oh what does he know! Look all he has >> is>> >> one of those "OLD-FASHION LEICA CAMERAS!" Throw their head back, walk >> off>> >> and sniff the air! "He's got one of those "old-time camera things! You >> can't >>> even phone with it!" >>> >>> So OK, re-actions, instincts, swiftness >> of eye and trigger finger, CLICK?" >>> Trust me.......... YOU CAN ONLY SHOW >> IT, TELL THEM, AGAIN & AGAIN! "But you >>> ain't going to teach it! >>> >>> Not >> today with such auto-cameras on the market the holder believes he or she >>> >> just has to aim it and it takes great action images. "Or the quick >> corner>> >> KISS in a bar!" ;-) >>> >>> However? Lluis being Lluis "The Great One" we all >> love and admire? He'd defy >>> everything I've said and turn out a bunch of >> invisible LaRambla photo >>> -snappers! :-) >>> >>> cheers, >>> ted >>> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: LUG >> [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of >>> Lluis >> Ripoll >>> Sent: January-13-15 10:17 AM >>> To: Leica Users Group >>> Subject: >> Re: [Leica] 4 Pics >>> >>> Peter, >>> >>> Thank you very much for your >> arguments, I shall have my thoughts about this. >>> I don?t know if I would be >> able to communicate to others my instinctive >>> reactions and be able to >> explain how and why I react to shot, but your >>> questions are very >> interesting and help a lot. Thank you very much Peter, I >>> will not >> forget? >>> >>> Cheers >>> Lluis >>> >>> El 13/01/2015, a las 06:18, Peter Klein >> <boulanger.croissant at gmail.com> >>> escribi?: >>> >>>> Lluis: I think you have >> many things you could teach, and you have a Web >>>> "presence." Would you be >> comfortable with teaching? Can you "translate" >>>> what you do by instinct >> into terms that ordinary people could >>>> understand (especially people who >> don't understand photography anywhere >>>> near as you)? Would you enjoy doing >> that? If the answer to these >>>> questions is "yes," then I think you could >> do great workshops! >>>> >>>> --Peter >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 6:51 PM, >> Lluis Ripoll < >>>> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >> Montie, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you very much for looking and for your comment! Do >> you really think >>>>> that someone would be able to pay for?? ?. I would like >> it?., it will be >>>>> nice ? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Lluis >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>>> El 13/01/2015, a las 02:44, Montie <montoid at earthlink.net> >> escribi?: >>>>>> >>>>>> You should be holding "street photography" >> workshops! >>>>>> >>>>>> Montie >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Happy Call >>>>>> >> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/lluisripoll/16080258500/> >>>>>> MM Lux 75 >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Enjoying Winter >>>>>> >> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/lluisripoll/16241703526/> >>>>>> MM, Lux 35 >> pre >>>>>> >>>>>> Confidentiality >>>>>> >> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/lluisripoll/15645206044/> >>>>>> MM, Lux >> 50 >>>>>> >>>>>> Cafe Zurich >>>>>> >> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/lluisripoll/15647724153/> >>>>>> MM, Lux >> 75 >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome >>>>>> >>>>>> Saludos >> cordiales >>>>>> Lluis >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users >> Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica >> Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica >> Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users >> Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information