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Subject: [Leica] Elder prostate wisdom
From: topoxforddoc at btinternet.com (Charlie Chan)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 13:42:30 +0000
References: <2F82442F-AAB1-481E-AA9A-02BF203197D1@icloud.com> <D92C62C2-0C20-4337-86C7-77F2ACA47494@mac.com>

George,


I am very sorry to hear of your predicament. Whilst I don?t personally treat 
prostate cancer, as as surgical oncologist, one gets to know the basics 
about this. PSA testing is not a particularly reliable diagnostic test for 
prostate cancer (it is however good as tumour marker to monitor the disease 
in people who have already been diagnosed).

If your PSA is rising, it would be sensible to see an urologist. You will 
probably end with some more scans, such as an ultrasound and possibly MRI. 
Also you may end up having some needle biopsies taken of the prostate (a day 
or office procedure) for the pathologist to check. Many people having these 
tests for a rising PSA will have no abnormality after assessment.

If a high grade prostate cancer (using the Gleason score) is diagnosed, this 
needs taking seriously and will require treatment (surgery, radiotherapy or 
medical therapy depending on the stage of the disease). However, many men 
have low grade prostate cancer, which MAY not progress during your lifetime. 
In fact one will find that 50% of men who have died in their 80s will have 
an undisclosed, biologically insignificant prostate cancer, if a routine 
autopsy is performed.

I have enclosed a couple of articles below, which look at the conundrum of 
low grade prostate cancer.

http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/prostate-cancer-lives-as-it-is-born-slow-growing-and-benign-or-fast-growing-and-dangerous-201308146604

http://www.bjuinternational.com/bjui-blog/is-gleason-6-really-cancer/

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/73/16/5163.abstract?sid=6c0fb31f-fc58-4bbf-ad44-ae9e67eaf77f


Feel free to email me off list and Good Luck!

Best wishes,

Charlie

www.charlie-chan.co.uk
Cheltenham UK


On 22 Feb 2015, at 11:58, Bernard Quinn <bjq1 at mac.com> wrote:

> 
> George,
> 
> I do not have any knowledge or wisdom to contribute to this conversation 
> at all other than to wish you well on this journey. 
> 
> The bus metaphor may have another useful meaning here, namely that with 
> the help of our friends and loved ones the best thing we can do on these 
> journeys is to make our way forward as best we can a say at a time. 
> 
> Barney
> 
> Barney Quinn, WK3Z
> C: (301) 775-1386
> H: (301) 654-0938
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2015, at 6:06 PM, George Lottermoser <george.imagist at 
>> icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So I had a PSA blood test at the request of my new "primary care" doctor.
>> First time I've ever had one of these PC doctors.
>> He ordered a blood test for PSA, Cholesterol, Blood Sugar
>> 
>> First PSA test was 4.1 in April, 2011
>> When enlarged prostate was diagnosed with digital exam.
>> All the usual symptoms you'd expect with an enlarged prostate.
>> 
>> Now, Second PSA test was 7.8 in February, 2015
>> 
>> My new young Doctor wants me to see a Urologist.
>> 
>> I'd appreciate any and all opinions re: current state of the art
>> for Screenings et al re: Enlarged Prostates, Pre Cancer, Cancer, etc.
>> 
>> I know we must have a lot of experience among these OLD LEICA NUTS
>> 
>> On or off list as you see fit.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> George Lottermoser 
>> 
>> http://www.imagist.com
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>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>> 
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